tbourner Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Driving standards are definitely getting worse and I reckon it's down to the police being obsessed with the easy, speeding/mobile phone/seat belt earner nicks and ignore other demeanours unless someone has been injured. Seriously? Even in a thread about not wearing seat belts you manage to blame the Police. They really can't do anything right for some people can they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Well let's face it, make a point of counting the number of vehicles with failed headlamp bulbs on your next dark journey and it will be obvious what their priorities are. It certainly isn't road safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I've been brought up to put one on as soon as I get In a car, much like Homer said to the point you don't even think about it. However, I know someone who was in an accident, and would have been killed IF he had been wearing one! A huge fence post came through the windscreen and impaled the drivers seat! Luckily he had been thrown to the side of it! I imagine that is more exception than rule..!! I would think that if the fines were silly high for not wearing a seat belt or talking on your mobile it would bring things to a complete halt. Imagine getting fined a grand for using your phone? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Well let's face it, make a point of counting the number of vehicles with failed headlamp bulbs on your next dark journey and it will be obvious what their priorities are. I have played that game. France averages around 20%, yet in Thailand virtually zero and I am sad to admit that Brits are fast catching up with the frogwits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I haven't noticed, I feel really odd without the seatbelt on though. Maybe the Police have given in to everyones demands and gone to deal with 'real crimes'. Possible, i cant help but notice the lack of indicators, speeding in 30 zones, especially in the rain, i cant undertand some people. Really makes me feel uneasy with tailgaters and people who drive dangerously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 It takes 3 seconds to put your seatbelt on and it can save your life, AND the life of anyone you crash into. If you dont wear it, not only are you an idiot, your a selfish one. All IMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 You'd have to be pretty unlucky to be killed by the unbelted driver of another car. Maybe if you were driving some lightly screened old classic or something. I dod once witness someone coming through their windscreen as I stood at the side of the road watching the chaos after a truck dropped its trailer blocking a junction. (Dartford types will know it as the Princes Road / Green St Green Road junction, up by the Downs). While using the garage forecourt as a short cut, 3 cars went head-on and a woman passenger came through her screen then slumped back into her car again. It all seemed in slo-mo but I clearly remember her face starting to leak red all over. Nasty business, and it wasn't that high speed a crash. A seatbelt would have caused her nowt but bruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 You're probably right there Chris. I like much of my generation were brought up during the "clunk click" age! I remember my stepdad kicking up hell when he had to start wearing a seat belt. how old am i? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 You're probably right there Chris. I like much of my generation were brought up during the "clunk click" age and for everyone I know it's absolutely natural to belt up when getting into a car. I don't even think about doing it, it's as natural as checking it's in neutral and turning the key. It feels incredibly wierd driving a car without the belt on, "uncomfortable" even. I even find myself doing it when moving cars on/off the driveway! I'm exactly the same Darryl, it's a natural thing for me too. I've started driving off once or twice and not had my belt on and it just felt, well...wrong and uncomfortable and unsafe. So, on the belt went Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I am terrible on short journeys but I hardly get over 20mph round here & in traffic? It is just stop & start, so if it is a short journey I have to do in town then I don't bother. Though that is a little difficult in the Type R as it constantly beeps at you til you put it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I remember my stepdad kicking up hell when he had to start wearing a seat belt. how old am i? I remember all that, people saying it was better to be thrown clear..seriously? They thought it would be safer to be hurled out of a crashing car, and of course there was always someone who knew someone who's friend's friend had been killed when their seatbelt prevented them from getting out of a burning or sinking car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Its beacuse all yound people are invincible, they wont crash that have been driving a few years so are experts. They dont need belts or indicators, **** everyone else on the road. Until they bullseye the windscreen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I, like most, find it way to uncomfortable to even move a car without my seatbelt on, it just feels wrong not having one on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I always wear a seatbelt, and don't understand why anyone wouldn't? I've also seen an increase in people just not indicating recently it seems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Can't imagine why people wouldn't - except perhaps laziness or too many people in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I am terrible on short journeys but I hardly get over 20mph round here & in traffic? It is just stop & start, so if it is a short journey I have to do in town then I don't bother. Though that is a little difficult in the Type R as it constantly beeps at you til you put it on! Its not how fast you are going, its how quickly you decelerate (or how quickly you don't decerlerate when your car does). Try deliberatley running into a stationary object at 20mph and see whether it changes your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I have to hang my head in shame, I'm guilty of driving without belt when using my Landcruiser. I'm a bus driver so I do not wear belt when on bus, that's why I tend to forget when driving big 4x4. I'm always putting belt on when driving small or sports cars for some reason tho, I think it have something to do with how far away from ground I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Dorset Police are part of the "No excuses" campaign and in a day.... http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/9097885.Nearly_200_careless_motorists_caught_in_one_day_blitz/ By 3pm 56 drivers had been detected for failing to belt up; 53 opted to attend a seat belt course at Bournemouth’s Streetwise centre. Twenty motorists were caught speeding and 14 were observed using their mobile phones at the wheel. Five had no MOTs, one had no insurance and another had no licence leading to the seizure of two vehicles. On a single road the A338 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Dorset Police are part of the "No excuses" campaign and in a day.... I really wish the police did that more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I don't, I wish they'd stop taking us motorists for cash cows and get on with something a bit more important, like shifting "travellers", giving known trouble makers a hard time, and giving relatively honest citizens a "good time". I can't think of anything much more trivial in terms of illegality than not wearing a seat belt. Quite why freedom of choice was removed for this I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I can't think of anything much more trivial in terms of illegality than not wearing a seat belt. Quite why freedom of choice was removed for this I don't know. It's trivial in terms of legality just as much as it's trivial in terms of how much time it takes to belt up! Also, people talking on mobiles deserve to crash and die, and people with no insurance or licence deserve to have their faces cut off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Its not how fast you are going, its how quickly you decelerate (or how quickly you don't decerlerate when your car does). Try deliberatley running into a stationary object at 20mph and see whether it changes your opinion I have done on my cycle, doesn't half hurt for a few days My current car weighs pretty much nothing, and I can pretty much stop very quickly at 20mph, but I do understand what you are saying. Thing is we hardly get over 20mph when I pop out at rush hour in either direction. It's too built up for people to speed but I do take into account that it is generally not myself but other drivers you have to look out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It's trivial in terms of legality just as much as it's trivial in terms of how much time it takes to belt up!Also, people talking on mobiles deserve to crash and die, and people with no insurance or licence deserve to have their faces cut off.I'd hate to think what should happen to drunk drivers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I don't like being nannied, now I watch the news and pensioners are being cited as a high risk group for alcohol and drug abuse. Not being THAT far off pensionable age I am aghast at yet more meddling form think tanks that are no doubt currently emnbroiled on plans to make themselves look indespensable in these times of cuts, when, in reality, they are mere taxpayer funded quangos. A glass of red wine or half a pint of bitter a day is all I should take when 65 plus? You gotta' be kidding. The advocates of this looked and sounded as boring and as "jobsworthy"as you might expect. There's not one pensioner I know in my local that would deem it worth turning out for less than 3 pints a night. A good night would see that near doubled, on a regular basis. None look likely to drop dead anytime soon, and given a choice of abuse and a foreshortened old age, or boredom and near total abstinence, I am pretty sure what they'd decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Chris. Just nip out for a pint and a cigar and you'll be fine. Go on...do it now Edit:...I say a pint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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