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MacBook HD failure - AGAIN!


Ian W

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Laptop crashed so held down power button to reset and on restart heard the dreaded clicking sound :(

 

I'm an idiot and have backed up nothing BTW. I don't want any sympathy as its stupid of me to not back stuff up, I just want to know....is it all lost or can I retrieve the HD contents?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Ian

 

EDIT: Well, it's happened again. New SSD has (I think) failed within approximately ten months of installing the thing. Please see last post to see me requesting more help :cry:

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I personally have stopped doing the freezer trick.... it does actually cause a bit of damage.

 

Depending on how critical the data is, it comes down to a matter of cost. I've recently sent drives off to a repair company who have had some success in recovering various drives. The chances of success are higher the LESS you attempt to do to it. The freezer trick usually results in them NOT being able to fix it. BUT recovery isn't cheap and can vary from £100 to around £1k just depends on serious you are about wanting the data back.

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I'm not about to pay money for it, put it that way. It's mostly photos that I'm pissed about losing.

 

The freezer trick may be worth a shot then just back up as much as I can while I can. Need to figure out how to remove it now :D

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Yeah, didn't think to add that. The freezer trick will pretty much feck your drive. You might get half a dozen shots at it before totally killing it, but those goes will be fairly short so you need to make the most of your time.

 

Anything important you need to bend over and get a specialist to do full on disc recovery.

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Tried the freezer trick twice, nothing doing :(

 

Bought myself a 1tb external HD and am currently installing OSX on a shiny, new internal SSD.

 

Fingers crossed it goes smoothly and I back everything up like a good boy should from now on!!

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For the cost of it, I can recommend DropBox, I know there are some security issues people have raised up, but for $99/year for 50gb, you get access on pretty much most devices (phone, laptop, pc etc)

 

Although if you are maccy-fied, why not look at iCloud?

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You can tell, I'm not a mac boy can't you ;) I've still got this mac book pro, and while it is nice, I keep wanting to put linux on it :)

 

I was having a look at the file system on my ipad, it's the same as linux on dboxes etc. I was quite surprised to see that.

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I was having a look at the file system on my ipad, it's the same as linux on dboxes etc. I was quite surprised to see that.

 

Mac is BSD based (darwin), which is very similar indeed. In fact a jailborked iphone runs debian packaging system if I remember rightly.

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I'm running a low end, OCZ SSD and while it is smallish, it is definitely quick and I've not had an issue so far with it.

 

Sounds similar to what I'm using, Gav. I went for a Kingston 64gb SSD as the majority of stuff will now go onto the external HD rather than on the laptop (the really important stuff will be on both mind you).

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Sounds similar to what I'm using, Gav. I went for a Kingston 64gb SSD as the majority of stuff will now go onto the external HD rather than on the laptop (the really important stuff will be on both mind you).

 

Yeah, past 160GB they went up to a silly price :)

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For the cost of it, I can recommend DropBox, I know there are some security issues people have raised up, but for $99/year for 50gb, you get access on pretty much most devices (phone, laptop, pc etc)

 

Although if you are maccy-fied, why not look at iCloud?

 

Before some of guys come of the woodwork to discredit MS I think they have a good cloud based storage solution since 2007. I have to say that the Skydrive with free 25GB for every hotmail account is nothing buy amazing! I have been using it for the last 3 years and have no problems with any of my photos or documents. All my files are still there since 2007! I recently came back from a holiday in Tenerife and added about 8 GB of photos & videos onto the skydrive and shared it with some of my friends and family as it has shared permissions.

 

Also as the whole skydrive is now rewritten in HTML5 you can access them on any mac or linux or windows PC through a browser. But Live Mesh to sync content between devices is only available on the PC at the moment.

 

I think this is a cheaper option to back up all you photos, audio, video n docs. And if you need more space you can always have more than one account. Also the maximum size per file is now 100MB so you can always use it for large attachments instead of using attachments via email.

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I'm running a low end, OCZ SSD and while it is smallish, it is definitely quick and I've not had an issue so far with it.

 

I was looking at getting a SSD for my MBP, however came across this and decided to invest in more RAM instead. Perhaps Hybrid drives could be a good cost option.

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I was looking at getting a SSD for my MBP, however came across this and decided to invest in more RAM instead. Perhaps Hybrid drives could be a good cost option.

 

I've got a 500gb hybrid drive in my main work laptop as well, it seems okay, wouldn't say it is hugely quick, but I've noticed a bit of a difference, cost effective though

 

Work laptop is a latitude E6240 + 8GB ram + 500gb hybrid, linux

Support laptop is a asus UL30A + 8GB ram + 160GB ssd, win7 (OCZ ssd Sata 2)

 

Ran a benchmark on the asus (running on battery and not mains)

 

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I've got a 500gb hybrid drive in my main work laptop as well, it seems okay, wouldn't say it is hugely quick, but I've noticed a bit of a difference, cost effective though

 

Work laptop is a latitude E6240 + 8GB ram + 500gb hybrid, linux

Support laptop is a asus UL30A + 8GB ram + 160GB ssd, win7 (OCZ ssd Sata 2)

 

Ran a benchmark on the asus (running on battery and not mains)

 

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=135137&d=1309216897

[ATTACH=CONFIG]135137[/ATTACH]

 

Dude, I'm going whole hog for it - going to buy 2x240Gb SSDs and Raid-0 them :)

 

As for SSD reliability it all depends if you buy SLC (single level cell flash) or MLC (multi level (2) cell flash) - it will come down to cost. A SLC will have the performance, the MLC will have better reliability and density but does suffer cell leakage. Soon there'll be 3-level MLC flash though.

 

An SSD will run for about 3-5 years I would warrant - then it *will* fail - but they fail into read only mode or good ones will - so you could take it out your laptop put it in a caddy and read the data off it. For instance a 300Gb SSD that's 'enterprise' actually has 1000Gb of flash cells on it - within 5 years 600+Gb of that will fail - but means you have a drive which you can write 300Gb of data to for a warrantied 3-5 yer period.

 

SSD is there for performance. You want reliability you go raid. You want more reliability you backup - lots.

 

Sounds similar to what I'm using, Gav. I went for a Kingston 64gb SSD as the majority of stuff will now go onto the external HD rather than on the laptop (the really important stuff will be on both mind you).

 

Dude, so you've gone from a laptop HDD with everything on to an external HDD ... with everything on. Really look at backups if you consider your photos etc data you can't lose.

 

Ian, for backups I would personally recommend not just an external HDD - as they're as prone to failure as your laptop drive was (bar the vibration/movement I guess) but would look at backing up your data somehow - not just having it on a single drive. I would recommend an online backup company - there are many now.

 

Either look at backblaze or Mozy (google either) and read. You can get a client on Mac OSX that integrates just as well as time machine. All it takes is to drop your HDD, a flood, a theft and it's all gone again...

 

I have about 3.5Tb of files backed up to the Net as well as on HDDs I keep out of the house. Backblaze has been a good service so far - Mozy was until they stopped the unlimited service but I don't know how much you want to backup.

 

I wouldn't trust a 1Tb external HDD as far as I could throw it.

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All noted mate. If anything I'll be backing up to DVD in the meantime!

 

I remember a friend doing that once, and put postit notes on the discs to note when they were from.

 

Once he went to use one and had put the postit on the underside, took the postit off - ooooh look, shiny covered postit! :)

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My Corsair X64 SSD has been a real PITA, it was like lightening when first installed but didnt support TRIM, a recent firmware update was supposed to fix that but its performance is still massively down on what it was originally, you can restore performance by doing a secure erase with hardware support but its a hassle I cant be bothered with so now I just live with it blue screening my Win7 desktop every now and then.

 

I may well just replace it with a newer model OCZ Vertex 2E or something to see if they are any better.

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