b_have Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Anyone here fit Solar heating or pv systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cje001 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I know someone who does - you want his contact details mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hamiltonsupra Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Yes mate, what help are you looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Check the break even costs carefully, as well as the life span of the units. I remember doing some research into it a few years ago for a data centre I was building, and the break even time was around 15 years, and the PV life length was 10. I'll see if I can find the article of the guy who did out his entire house in the States, but he took a very scientific approach to it with all sorts of useful figures rather than the ones quoted by the manufacturers. It wasn't a complete waste by any means but the returns are nowhere near as good as claimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hamiltonsupra Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The new FIT tarriffs have changed this. Units will last 25 year with approx 10% degredation. Break even now around 10-12 year with an overall yield of around 12% over the 25 years - which beats any pension/ISA etc. Also the initial outlay can be passed on meaning there is no initial cost to you - basically you rent your roof, get free energy, but not the overall financial gain (and no risk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The new FIT tarriffs have changed this. Units will last 25 year with approx 10% degredation. Break even now around 10-12 year with an overall yield of around 12% over the 25 years - which beats any pension/ISA etc. Also the initial outlay can be passed on meaning there is no initial cost to you - basically you rent your roof, get free energy, but not the overall financial gain (and no risk) I've looked into those schemes a while back and they were IMHO a bit of a con, yes they gave you the panels, but with everything in life there is no such thing as a free lunch; They got the excess electricity payments rather than the end-user getting the payments. Guess it is a bit of a compromise. That said, it may not be the case any more, I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hamiltonsupra Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Thats what i mean mate - benefits with hardly any risk but no cash to be made apart from your savings. I deal mainly with commercial properties where the outlay and payback is far greater - its not uncommon to double your 120k outlay plus save on fuel costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 Cheers guys, I'm fitting my own solar heating system (my neighbour had one fitted last year and the feedback is impressive). So far, I have bought three Ritter panels, a pump station and controller,solar twin coil tank, sensors etc but wanted to know if I can use a ch type expansion vessel? Also, anyone here have trade connections for purchasing mono PV panels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The new FIT tarriffs have changed this. Units will last 25 year with approx 10% degredation. Break even now around 10-12 year with an overall yield of around 12% over the 25 years - which beats any pension/ISA etc. Also the initial outlay can be passed on meaning there is no initial cost to you - basically you rent your roof, get free energy, but not the overall financial gain (and no risk) What happens when you try to sell your house ? What if the new Buyers don't want it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Two words to all those wanting Solar. Green deal............its out next year and its going to make me rich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hamiltonsupra Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 What happens when you try to sell your house ? What if the new Buyers don't want it ? It becomes part of the house value. The deal stays the same as the original set up - just passed over - if the new buyer doesnt want it with the house (which would seem strange) then granted there are options to look into. If its household owned then it would just be put down to a loss if you wanted shot of it , but again why throw away the free money? If its rented its still in the hands of the installer but the new owner takes over the benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I've looked into those schemes a while back and they were IMHO a bit of a con, yes they gave you the panels, but with everything in life there is no such thing as a free lunch; They got the excess electricity payments rather than the end-user getting the payments. Guess it is a bit of a compromise. That said, it may not be the case any more, I'm not sure. Agree, always read e small print - no such thing as a free lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 As ive said read up about green deal. Not worth fitting until the goverment will give you a loan that you pay back as you save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 As ive said read up about green deal. Not worth fitting until the goverment will give you a loan that you pay back as you save. Will look into it. Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 As ive said read up about green deal. Not worth fitting until the goverment will give you a loan that you pay back as you save. When it's starting? Can you feed us with data once it will be avaliable? I heard about loans from energy companies such as EON etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I've been researching pv systems for months now as I have a large south facing roof. The problem for me is tree shading in the winter months. From what I've read, if one panel I shaded, it knocks out the others? The FIT deal from the gvmt seems good and is CPI linked for 25 years so a 3kw system could pay for itself within around eight years and provide a nice income thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 When it's starting? Can you feed us with data once it will be avaliable? I heard about loans from energy companies such as EON etc. Soon as ive been to the meetings i will post up the full details, your right in the fact the loan comes from the energy companies, who are forced by the goverment. Looking middle of next year. I was at a meeting nov last year where they laid out the deal, however they are still tweeking it. Nothing set in stone yet other than the above. That and if you are over 70 then there is a chance the engery company may have to pay for the whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 I know someone who does - you want his contact details mate? Cheers mate but he's a long way from me, I'm looking for someone to commission my system after fitting. Thanks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hamiltonsupra Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I've been researching pv systems for months now as I have a large south facing roof. The problem for me is tree shading in the winter months. From what I've read, if one panel I shaded, it knocks out the others? The FIT deal from the gvmt seems good and is CPI linked for 25 years so a 3kw system could pay for itself within around eight years and provide a nice income thereafter. Your right mate the tree shading on any panel can screw the whole system (sometimes best to have no coverage at all in this area rather than have an overall detrement) If you cut the tree dont feel too guilty as you are still looking after the enviroment with energy savings...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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