spider2123 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 im using the 1uzfe engine and i have decided to remove the PAS, may sound stupid but can keep the existing rack or do i have to change it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soopra Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 no idea but won't it be hideous to drive without power steering....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It'll be helluva heavy mate. Remember back in the days prior to ABS it took around 43 turns to get from lock to lock? They were geared differently back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 im using the 1uzfe engine and i have decided to remove the PAS, may sound stupid but can keep the existing rack or do i have to change it? I drove my car 12 miles when the PAS packed up, never ever again, its waaaaay too heavy - when its stationary, forget even turning the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee from China Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 It'll be helluva heavy mate. Remember back in the days prior to ABS it took around 43 turns to get from lock to lock? They were geared differently back then. Scotty, How would the brakes affect the steering? or do you mean PAS and not ABS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider2123 Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 its only heavy dude to the fluid in the system, once removed it quite easy- just wondered if there is a different(quick) rack i could fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Scotty, How would the brakes affect the steering? or do you mean PAS and not ABS? Haha, yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) This could be the solution? http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?237475-Electric-power-steering-pump Edited June 6, 2011 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 its only heavy dude to the fluid in the system, once removed it quite easy- just wondered if there is a different(quick) rack i could fit? I think there was talk of a quick rack a while back. I just remember seeing the thread so can't say whether it was a "do they exist thread" or a "available for sale thread". Even with the fluid out they are pretty heavy bud, due to the short rack. Once on the move it shouldn't be much of an issue but at standstill it would be a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I still have this if it helps? http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?237475-Electric-power-steering-pump I could be wrong but I think he would want rid of the PAS to aid steering feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider2123 Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 with the 1uz being lighter it feels fine at stands still.the main reason for removing th PAS is to save more weight and have less engine drag. looks like im gonna haVE BIGGER ARMS IN THE FURURE lol. thanks for your info people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 its only heavy dude to the fluid in the system, once removed it quite easy- just wondered if there is a different(quick) rack i could fit? A faster mechanical ratio rack will be even heavier, I can't believe you think it safe to have no PAS on something that heavy. Nor can I believe removing the fluid will make it any lighter, it just gets returned to the reservoir when the pump is not running and the steering turned. If you do ahead with this somewhat wild plan you MUST weld up the quill shaft in the rack stem, or it will have free play and the quill shaft may eventually break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Does it weigh a lot? In my head I can't imagine it weighting much more than a Burger King XL meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soopra Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 OK I know MK5 Cortinas aren't in the same league here but having driven some without PAS and one with I definitely know which I prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 On my project daily drive car I have used a small electric pump from a Saxo, I did it as it was going to be a drama to fit a mechanical pump to the engine used. It is a comparatively small unit and only draws lots of current and therefore loading the alternator when parking or on full lock when stationary, in normal use it draws about an amp or so, so not a lot of load on the engine. I understand the astra mk3s also have an electric pump that lends itself to this sort of application and a few Peugots too. Might be an option to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider2123 Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 thanks that has cleared things up, i could of dealt with the with the steering being heavier but the rack breaking is a no no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 you can get companies to build you a manal rack.There s a place near me that used to do it,will get the number for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider2123 Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 thanks that would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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