jonathanc Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I know this is probably the wrong forum to ask but I tried googling but not much information on this. Thinking about a GTR but I've heard some cons such as the nitrogen filled tyres could be a problem and also the very short service internals (6k miles?) Just wondering if someone could kindly point me to a good source to read up more about this. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Gaz Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I would try Jurgen dude, he has one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 or gtroc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 no problem with nitrogen, i have filled up twice a year if that.. servicing (you can use any garage) rather than HPC to keep warranty. very fast cars, very comfortable and pleasure to drive.. drinks the fuel, gets lots of attention. i have had mine 3 years now (1 year off road due to me pushing the stock motor) - change the oil every 3k , pads and disk every 12k or so can costs around 1500 to do. trans oil every 18k diff around 40k... go for a drive and you will love it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 no problem with nitrogen, i have filled up twice a year if that.. servicing (you can use any garage) rather than HPC to keep warranty. very fast cars, very comfortable and pleasure to drive.. drinks the fuel, gets lots of attention. i have had mine 3 years now (1 year off road due to me pushing the stock motor) - change the oil every 3k , pads and disk every 12k or so can costs around 1500 to do. trans oil every 18k diff around 40k... go for a drive and you will love it.. Thanks for the input Jurgen £1500 for discs/pads? looking maybe at late 08 or early 09 models. Spoke with a colleague and he mentioned about the very high maintanence cost for the car thats why its not really selling well. R8s on the other hand are cheaper to maintain but they still cost a bomb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 or gtroc? On there now but still searching for a nice FAQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 If you can afford it go for the R8, chalk and cheese. Having said that, with the prices of the GTR as they are now, even with high maintenance costs they are quite affordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I've booked a test drive for the girlfriend (there was an offer for 17-21 year olds) so I'll let you know what she thinks I'd go for it if you can afford it. Who cares about servicing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I've booked a test drive for the girlfriend (there was an offer for 17-21 year olds) so I'll let you know what she thinks I'd go for it if you can afford it. Who cares about servicing? Hold on, this is the girlfriend who drives a Ford KA right? Join the GTROC forum dude, if you are keeping it in stock form they are amazing cars. The running costs compared to the performance is outstanding, obviously this will be very expensive if you are talking this to the dealers. I have heard of some horror stories on PH but generally they have been getting good press in stock form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 I've booked a test drive for the girlfriend (there was an offer for 17-21 year olds) so I'll let you know what she thinks I'd go for it if you can afford it. Who cares about servicing? Wow, your GF must be doing very well to afford GTR at her age I'm 30 lol and just coming to afford buying it. (Mid life crisis hitting me early? hehe) On a more serious note though, what is this offer for 17-21 year olds? You mean for the GTR? I would like to know feedback if possible please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hold on, this is the girlfriend who drives a Ford KA right? Join the GTROC forum dude, if you are keeping it in stock form they are amazing cars. The running costs compared to the performance is outstanding, obviously this will be very expensive if you are talking this to the dealers. I have heard of some horror stories on PH but generally they have been getting good press in stock form! I think I will be keeping it stock mate. The most I will go for is mapping/exhaust but we all know that's how it all starts lol. It's not really the cost but I am very busy most of the time and would be driving the car as my main car so would prefer something I can enjoy driving rather than taking it into the workshop everytime.... I owned an RX8 before and that was a pain sometimes esp in winter Certainly tempting but I will sign up on GTROC and hopefully get access to some FAQs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 If you can afford it go for the R8, chalk and cheese. Having said that, with the prices of the GTR as they are now, even with high maintenance costs they are quite affordable. Purchasing price wise a reasonably specced R8 (V8 manual) would be circa 10k more but the maintanence is much lower (at least you don't have to service it every 6 months...) Oh well, will read up more on both cars and arrange test drives. I would think the GTR would be more practical as well due to the additional 2 seats and proper boot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuldhat Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Dont compare a R8 and a GTR.. The GTR is much faster in all aspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Purchasing price wise a reasonably specced R8 (V8 manual) would be circa 10k more but the maintanence is much lower (at least you don't have to service it every 6 months...) Oh well, will read up more on both cars and arrange test drives. I would think the GTR would be more practical as well due to the additional 2 seats and proper boot... that being the case i would go for the R8 everytime, both are great cars, the Audi is just a master piece and looks stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Be interested to see how running costs compare to a Turbo 911. For the money though, you could afford to but a Caterfield type car that would hammer a GTR around a track, and a nice TDi for everyday driving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprab1 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 If you can afford it go for the R8, chalk and cheese. Having said that, with the prices of the GTR as they are now, even with high maintenance costs they are quite affordable. Where? The cheapest i can see one is £37,495. When you said quite affordable i thought about £25,000. I need a new job lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Where? The cheapest i can see one is £37,495. When you said quite affordable i thought about £25,000. I need a new job lol. When I met with imi last weekend, he was talking about Aston Martin's.... That should give you a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 would love to have an Aston however what would I do with the Supra, love it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprab1 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 When I met with imi last weekend, he was talking about Aston Martin's.... That should give you a good idea It's well for some lol. I had been thinking about a GTR in the future but to just put irish plates on it you would be looking at another €19,080 on top of the price of the car. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I've heard some pretty bad things about the running/ownership costs of the GTR. It's a quick car, but there is a reason they can sell it so cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Y'know even Kwik-Fit do Nitrogen filling of tires now? £1/tire .... or free if you know people that work there I must say even in the Supra and our golf runaround it gave a better feel (maybe that's just a placebo effect but I'd like to think it wasn't). Taken an R8 for a blast, was alright but felt underpowered , lovely chassis though I do admit. I do want to try the GTR when I can. Or a SCd 350/370z Oh and the VTEC supercharged Exiges I keep seeing on pistonheads after I thrashed one around Thruxton. I am currently envious of my friend's Porsche 911 993 Turbo S... lucky bloke. I am finding I am questioning more and more why I have a fast road car, as j_jza80 said above, it's tempting to get a nice stock GT-esq diesel for the roads and something that'll blow your head off on the track (and then doesn't even have to be road legal - westfield, cateringvan etc). With all the pains of MOTs, the fun things mentioned about VOSA recently and having a car that can lose you your license in seconds on the road (which then maybe stuffs your career etc) are all detractions. I've been sadly looking at 530/535ds like Johnny_G's )withj a remap) and then come back to getting something that'll get my heart racing on a track, rather than anywhere public where unfortunately half the scare is the danger and I know that's so wrong. So you're approaching 30 chap (I'm 30 in July) so roughly same boat - now I have a wee girl it's changed my ideas of chasing big power in a car I'll use on the road. Heck today I was wondering of selling my UK and trying to find a nice aerotop that's stock engine wise. So ask yourself - are you going to get a fast car to thrash on the road, thrash on a track, or just there as something to covet? Each answer I think would give you a very different situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 Y'know even Kwik-Fit do Nitrogen filling of tires now? £1/tire .... or free if you know people that work there I must say even in the Supra and our golf runaround it gave a better feel (maybe that's just a placebo effect but I'd like to think it wasn't). Taken an R8 for a blast, was alright but felt underpowered , lovely chassis though I do admit. I do want to try the GTR when I can. Or a SCd 350/370z Oh and the VTEC supercharged Exiges I keep seeing on pistonheads after I thrashed one around Thruxton. I am currently envious of my friend's Porsche 911 993 Turbo S... lucky bloke. I am finding I am questioning more and more why I have a fast road car, as j_jza80 said above, it's tempting to get a nice stock GT-esq diesel for the roads and something that'll blow your head off on the track (and then doesn't even have to be road legal - westfield, cateringvan etc). With all the pains of MOTs, the fun things mentioned about VOSA recently and having a car that can lose you your license in seconds on the road (which then maybe stuffs your career etc) are all detractions. I've been sadly looking at 530/535ds like Johnny_G's )withj a remap) and then come back to getting something that'll get my heart racing on a track, rather than anywhere public where unfortunately half the scare is the danger and I know that's so wrong. So you're approaching 30 chap (I'm 30 in July) so roughly same boat - now I have a wee girl it's changed my ideas of chasing big power in a car I'll use on the road. Heck today I was wondering of selling my UK and trying to find a nice aerotop that's stock engine wise. So ask yourself - are you going to get a fast car to thrash on the road, thrash on a track, or just there as something to covet? Each answer I think would give you a very different situation. Have a brood of my own 3 daughters actually! I have a 7 seater Renault (which I am thinking of replacing with a smaller Touran) for the family and I currently drive a MK2 TTS to work. Just want something more exciting and yet reliable. Would like a AWD coupe so I guess the choices are limited I won't be tracking my car though. It would be for commute and occasional countryside drive. R8 and GTR seems to suit the bill but I think the R8 is a bit "shouty"? My TTS gets admiration but also a target of vandalism that's why I am mega paranoid about where I park it. Installing CCTV as well in my house but I digress... I am leaning a lot towards GTR but I've been hearing a lot of unfavourable experiences from owners. (That's why apparently so few around and people selling them off at low mileages) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 There's nothing magic about the GTR, it's just a very big, very complex modern car. You don't NEED to run them on run flat tyres (in fact I wouldn't even want to, as performance is compromised by the sidewall structure). You don't have to use nitrogen. To me they have far too many unnecessary gizmos, and a very worrying amount of expensive gizmos just behind the front bumper. Very soon values will have fallen to a level where even a fairly mild front end shunt will see them written off. Used as road car they seem fine, but used seriously on track the transmissions get sniffy, they are under braked, and there's no getting away from them being so heavy and BIG. If you view one as a long term keeper I would worry about rot, ever since the R32 the Skyline range has become worse for rot, the R34 is particularly bad. Who knows how the R35 will fair? I am also biased as I think they are plug ugly. Someone mentioned an R8. I would wait until they drop a bit more, buy an early one with low miles, and maybe have it tweaked by one of the better German tuners, if it's not fast enough as is. And paint the rear quarter panels body colour I wouldn't even contemplate an Aston, unreliable with immense parts prices. But there again I wouldn't even contemplate spending more than £2K on any road car, they do nothing for me, and expensive and fast ones are more hassle than they are worth. If I can't leave it in the pub car park over night without worrying, it's not worth having Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Wow, your GF must be doing very well to afford GTR at her age I'm 30 lol and just coming to afford buying it. (Mid life crisis hitting me early? hehe) On a more serious note though, what is this offer for 17-21 year olds? You mean for the GTR? I would like to know feedback if possible please She's not thinking of buying one at all but there was an offer on Facebook for 17-21 year olds to test drive any Nissan and give a review on it. I've signed her up for it even though she probably won't go for it in the hope that when the details come through I can call them up and say "she doesn't want to do it any more. I'm only 22, can I do it and just pretend I'm 21?"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 There's nothing magic about the GTR, it's just a very big, very complex modern car. You don't NEED to run them on run flat tyres (in fact I wouldn't even want to, as performance is compromised by the sidewall structure). You don't have to use nitrogen. To me they have far too many unnecessary gizmos, and a very worrying amount of expensive gizmos just behind the front bumper. Very soon values will have fallen to a level where even a fairly mild front end shunt will see them written off. Used as road car they seem fine, but used seriously on track the transmissions get sniffy, they are under braked, and there's no getting away from them being so heavy and BIG. If you view one as a long term keeper I would worry about rot, ever since the R32 the Skyline range has become worse for rot, the R34 is particularly bad. Who knows how the R35 will fair? I am also biased as I think they are plug ugly. Someone mentioned an R8. I would wait until they drop a bit more, buy an early one with low miles, and maybe have it tweaked by one of the better German tuners, if it's not fast enough as is. And paint the rear quarter panels body colour I wouldn't even contemplate an Aston, unreliable with immense parts prices. But there again I wouldn't even contemplate spending more than £2K on any road car, they do nothing for me, and expensive and fast ones are more hassle than they are worth. If I can't leave it in the pub car park over night without worrying, it's not worth having Nail on the head chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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