jackso11 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I am having a full geo-setup done next week and thought as my current shocks have doneabout 130k miles it might be wise to change them at the same time. Where is best to get new Billies from? Chris Wilson? how much can I expect to pay?....maybe chris will answer I have a set of Tein coilovers I bought from a member a while back but they are second hand, thinkI might just sell those and get yellows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Chris Wilson is the man for billies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 When you find out can you update the thread as I'm after a pair for the front. Unless you want to sell me the coilovers for an exceptional 'its my birthday' price Its not my birthday btw, but I'll try anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 haha. It is my girlfriends birthday, well it was yesterday anyway. Does that count? I guess that means I get the best deal and can price them high...right? Its late, I am talking crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have never actually tried my Tein shocks. They are Tein SS, would these be a lot better than bilsteins for UK road use? or would new bilsteins be the better option. (Teins as secondhand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Tein ss are really bad mate, especially if you have potholes in your area? do you? if so you definitely want to get shot of the teins, And you aren't supposed to play about with teins either, I'm think there are even laws against it I actually know nothing about them, can you tell? I do like my bilsteins though, I think I got the rears s/h off chris last year at a great price and they transformed the car. The fronts are knocking now so its either replace them with bilsteins or get some coilovers just for the sake of it. Also take advantage of the fact its the g/fs birthday to treat her to something nice, shiny and erm...yellow. and for more brownie points get her 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The stock suspension are coilovers too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 2 x 48510-09016 Toyota/Bilstein Damper 2 x 48530-09016 Toyota/Bilstein Damper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 The stock suspension are coilovers too..... thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 £110 plus VAT each for the German built Bilstein Sports. I can machine them for off car ride height adjustability for an extra £25 each. It's not necessary, just an option. I can also supply them re valved to my own spec, for use with my custom springs, to suit pretty much any application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 £110 plus VAT each for the German built Bilstein Sports. I can machine them for off car ride height adjustability for an extra £25 each. It's not necessary, just an option. I can also supply them re valved to my own spec, for use with my custom springs, to suit pretty much any application. Chris, have you seen the spring setup that Dan is using with your setup, have you thought about offering a tighter spring as an option? http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?194439-Dan-s-Supra-Project&p=3114858&viewfull=1#post3114858 I also need to adjust mine and possibly use a harder spring rate but have no idea whats required, would anything else require changing when increasing the spring rates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ideally the dampers need re valving if you up the spring rate by more than say 20%. I have seen Dan's set up, yes, we liaised over this. Given the way the Supra market has headed I am loathe to invest in anything that is costly to make, or sell, as the best selling stuff to many current owners seems to be bling and used bits and bobs. Sad, but commercially the truth. Many people judge a damper by how brightly coloured it, or its packaging is, and how cheap it is, rather than how well it works, and how well it's likely to last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ideally the dampers need re valving if you up the spring rate by more than say 20%. I have seen Dan's set up, yes, we liaised over this. Given the way the Supra market has headed I am loathe to invest in anything that is costly to make, or sell, as the best selling stuff to many current owners seems to be bling and used bits and bobs. Sad, but commercially the truth. Many people judge a damper by how brightly coloured it, or its packaging is, and how cheap it is, rather than how well it works, and how well it's likely to last I know what you mean:( On another note, does anyone near me have a CW suspension setup that could give me a passenger ride as I'm after something fairly firm but isn't going to smash my back in either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 My standard kit will certainly not be very harsh, let alone "smash your back in " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Are the german built new ones the same as the Toyota branded ones? I know what they are like as I had them on my last car. Also, how long would it take to get some to me Chris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The proper German made ones have more sophisticated valving in them than the made under licence by Toyota units. Firmness wise the German ones are a little firmer, but still totally comfortable, on similar springs. I need to check stock in Germany, but usually within two to three working days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Chris whats te benefit of having them re-valved to your spec over stock Bilstein setup ? Do these differ from TRD Bilstein, I know they have 3 height adjustments not too sure if non-trd versions do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanisLupus Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 The proper German made ones have more sophisticated valving in them than the made under licence by Toyota units. Firmness wise the German ones are a little firmer, but still totally comfortable, on similar springs. I need to check stock in Germany, but usually within two to three working days. Hi Chris would those be the Bilstein B6 then? Or other ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 Chris, if I ordered these tomorrow could you get them to me before the weekend? due to have my setup done on saturday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Possibly, I would need to see if Bilstein have stock, they are pretty naff at getting back to me though. I will ring them in the morning for you. If they can get them to me on Thursday we are in with a good chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Let me know what they say Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 These are in stock at Bilstein. I can have them sent direct to yourself. The total would be £110 x 4 off = £440, plus £14.80 P&P = £454.80 plus VAT @ 20% = £545.76 Do you want me to e-mail payment options? Please reply by e-mail to [email protected] If you want these before the weekend it needs sorting out today. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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