j_jza80 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 that just made me LOL hard... no offence to you mate but you certainly need to wake up and realise what is really going on.... i'll sum it up for you 9/11 is an inside job al-qaida/taliban is a creation of the CIA Hitler had support from zionists (who obviously had their own agenda) - not overlooking the accusation (a pretty serious one) that his grandpapa was a rothchild. how about opening up some books, doing some research before blaming everything on "religion" .... way i see it, on this forum can read (allegedly), so- pickup a Bible/Quran/Torah or what ever else you feel illinformed about and educate yourself instead of relying on other peoples interpretations/assumptions etc.... Hitler had support from many Christians and Muslims, however I fail to see how any Jewish movement could have had any involvement. He detested Jews and mistrusted them, so would hardly ally himself with them. I'd need to see some proper evidence (not some hearsay/conspiracy website) to give your claim any credibility. Also, these Muslim extremist groups were/are not a part of the CIA. I do believe that the CIA trained a few of them, 20 odd years ago during the Russian occupation, but do you think they would have been able to resist the Russians without weapons/training & tactics? I doubt it. And 911 wasn't an inside job. you have no proof to substantiate your claim, so please don't post it as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yes, so in your opinion it is an inside job. There is a fairly large difference between... In my opinion 9/11 is an inside job and 9/11 is an inside job FWIW I've seen all the theories, read all the stories and I haven't honestly came to a conclusion. A lot of religious people want to put blinkers on and point to everything other than religion though.... I wonder why? i don't think that's the case, see a lot of christians from the bible belt in america will point the finger against the muslims for a number of things including 9/11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Ermmm if I'm correct why was there explosives found and planted in the twin towers? You aren't correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I will guarantee you and your mates a better deal for 4%, then if after death you are not satisfied, a full refund will be given. Money is not everyting being in love with my fiancé is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Ermmm if I'm correct why was there explosives found and planted in the twin towers? Hahhahahhahahahaa. Jazz, you are seriously as thick as 2 planks of wood. Really really thick planks of wood. You have no understanding of any part of the discussion going on right now yet you throw out ridiculous points hoping to hit a target somewhere along the line. In fairness, blind squirrels do find nuts so keep firing mate. You'll get there one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hitler had support from many Christians and Muslims, however I fail to see how any Jewish movement could have had any involvement. He detested Jews and mistrusted them, so would hardly ally himself with them. I'd need to see some proper evidence (not some hearsay/conspiracy website) to give your claim any credibility. Having jewish relations that died in WW2 myself I find it all pretty distasteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 i don't think that's the case, see a lot of christians from the bible belt in america will point the finger against the muslims for a number of things including 9/11... I didn't say all, I said a lot When you hear hoof feet... think Horses.. not Zeberas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I'd rather be thick, then fat, ugly and Ginger , why did the government not do anything in advanced when they clearly knew the 911 was going to take place in advanced? Inside job simples . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I'd rather be thick, then fat, ugly and Ginger , why did the government not do anything in advanced when they clearly knew the 911 was going to take place in advanced? Inside job simples . Swing and a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hitler had support from many Christians and Muslims, however I fail to see how any Jewish movement could have had any involvement. He detested Jews and mistrusted them, so would hardly ally himself with them. I'd need to see some proper evidence (not some hearsay/conspiracy website) to give your claim any credibility. Also, these Muslim extremist groups were/are not a part of the CIA. I do believe that the CIA trained a few of them, 20 odd years ago during the Russian occupation, but do you think they would have been able to resist the Russians without weapons/training & tactics? I doubt it. And 911 wasn't an inside job. you have no proof to substantiate your claim, so please don't post it as fact. Hitler & Zionism - a simple overview : http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm i wouldn't say 20 odd years ago... look at what nato is doing in libya, it's a well known fact some of the "rebels" being backed are from al-qaida/taliban... on the same token, please don't state as "fact" that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Having jewish relations that died in WW2 myself I find it all pretty distasteful. not out to cause offence, just want to bring facts into a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I thought if "Godwins law" was ever brought up, the discussion was over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hitler & Zionism - a simple overview : http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm Clearly a non biased, trusted source i wouldn't say 20 odd years ago... look at what nato is doing in libya, it's a well known fact some of the "rebels" being backed are from al-qaida/taliban... I was referring to Afghan during the Russian occupation. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Taliban presence in Libya, hopefully it will give its members a more balanced view of the western world. on the same token, please don't state as "fact" that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. According to most civilised law, we are allowed to give the benefit of the doubt to any party until proven guilty. Therefore, it is generally acknowledged by the world that it was The Taliban, So I may continue to state it as fact all I wish. What you're doing is slanderous (defamation law), which is illegal BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I thought if "Godwins law" was ever brought up, the discussion was over? Nein!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 not out to cause offence, just want to bring facts unsubstantiated rumour/ hearsay etc into a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 What you're doing is slanderous (defamation law), which is illegal BTW.Not as it was written, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 not out to cause offence, just want to bring facts into a discussion. The trouble is you can't just bandy about these 'facts' - especially where mass death is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Happy monday everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra joe Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Well everyone has a crazy person inside lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Not as it was written, it isn't. Libel? I wasn't using the term slander in it's legal context (hence defamation in brackets) TBH I'm not sure how that applies to a public forum, but that wasn't really the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Clearly a non biased, trusted source . the source isn't "muslims/christians/athiest of santa clause against zionism" it's from the jews themselves. they would probably have a better understanding of zionism than you or me dont you think? I was referring to Afghan during the Russian occupation. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Taliban presence in Libya, hopefully it will give its members a more balanced view of the western world. which are what? please add to the list below in case i've missed any: *abuse of human rights *detention of "suspects" without trial - some indefinitely *support for illegal wars and occupations *disregard for international laws and signed treaties *disregard for refugees *"do as i say, not as i do" rethoric towards weaker nations *selling of arms to known terror groups to weaken and destabilise nations *extra judiciary killings *invasion of another nations sovereignty According to most civilised law, we are allowed to give the benefit of the doubt to any party until proven guilty. Therefore, it is generally acknowledged by the world that it was The Taliban, So I may continue to state it as fact all I wish. What you're doing is slanderous (defamation law), which is illegal BTW. well that makes no sense... how can you say "innocent till proven guilty" then go on to blame the taliban? I think you'll find according to the "civilised world" - most people want a proper investigation into 9/11 and want the US government to come clean about all fact surrounding that day.. Also, OBL was never charged nor convicted of a crime in a court of law - which makes his execution judiciary killing... and on the same token, neither were the taliban... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Libel? I wasn't using the term slander in it's legal context (hence defamation in brackets) TBH I'm not sure how that applies to a public forum, but that wasn't really the point.A public forum is just as accountable as any other written form under the jurisdiction of common law regarding libel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 The trouble is you can't just bandy about these 'facts' - especially where mass death is concerned. Mass death is also taking place in countries such as afghanistan/iraq/pakistan/palestine/kashmir/sudan to name just a few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 wow real intelligent... guess i should stick to debating with adults in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 wow real intelligent... guess i should stick to debating with adults in future. There's no debate, as you're not bringing any facts to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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