penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 How was either the UK or US goverment to blame for (few examples) 911, al Qaeda, Saddam Hussain, Hitler, etc.... All of these fanatics have had religion and their 'ideals' at the heart of their crazy actions!!! that just made me LOL hard... no offence to you mate but you certainly need to wake up and realise what is really going on.... i'll sum it up for you 9/11 is an inside job al-qaida/taliban is a creation of the CIA Hitler had support from zionists (who obviously had their own agenda) - not overlooking the accusation (a pretty serious one) that his grandpapa was a rothchild. how about opening up some books, doing some research before blaming everything on "religion" .... way i see it, on this forum can read (allegedly), so- pickup a Bible/Quran/Torah or what ever else you feel illinformed about and educate yourself instead of relying on other peoples interpretations/assumptions etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 why can't they help countries like Africa?. Who isn't helping Africa? Have you ever seen comic relief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Christ on a bike! That's a terrifying thought. As for Jesus and shellfish - it's true. (He personally told me when I was in Camden market looking to buy a bespoke pair of shiny trousers...anywy here's the proof, in writing: Leviticus 11:9 "...These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat" Ahh Leviticus..... hasn't most of that been dismissed by the Christian bretherin? As it didn't suit the modern way of thinking? Eye for an eye, die for eating shelfish etc? Picking and choosing what you follow regarding a faith is when you know that faith is full of sh........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Christ on a bike! That's a terrifying thought. As for Jesus and shellfish - it's true. (He personally told me when I was in Camden market looking to buy a bespoke pair of shiny trousers) anyway here's the proof, in writing: Leviticus 11:9 "...These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 FYI Jazz - Africa is not a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I totally agree. My view is - let's not worry about it; just live our lives as 'good' people simply because we want to rather then trying to get into a heavenly place or being fearful of a vengeful god, and then worry about what happens next when it happens. If I'm right then I would have had a content life without fearing the afterlife... if I'm wrong I'll probably be forced to spend the rest of eternity moderating the afterlife Supra forum's off topic section. although my take is i would rather try and lead a good life according to Gods commands - that way, when we get to the "other side" if i'm in the wrong i'll still be ok.... whereas if you were wrong... well i'm not sure they have supra forums there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Who isn't helping Africa? Have you ever seen comic relief? anyone know what proportion of the funds actually goes to the people we see on the tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Ahh Leviticus..... hasn't most of that been dismissed by the Christian bretherin? As it didn't suit the modern way of thinking? Eye for an eye, die for eating shelfish etc? Picking and choosing what you follow regarding a faith is when you know that faith is full of sh........ ...ellfish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 that just made me LOL hard... no offence to you mate but you certainly need to wake up and realise what is really going on.... i'll sum it up for you 9/11 is an inside job al-qaida/taliban is a creation of the CIA Hitler had support from zionists (who obviously had their own agenda) - not overlooking the accusation (a pretty serious one) that his grandpapa was a rothchild. how about opening up some books, doing some research before blaming everything on "religion" .... way i see it, on this forum can read (allegedly), so- pickup a Bible/Quran/Torah or what ever else you feel illinformed about and educate yourself instead of relying on other peoples interpretations/assumptions etc.... You are being a tad hypocritical saying that what others say can be read as allegedly yet you chose to use the word "is" to state fact in your statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Religion is usually at the cause of everything that is really bad in this world! I know the above is a sweeping statement but someone tell me otherwise? - World Wars - Well, all wars pretty much - Terrorism I mean look at Celtic - Rangers for one, mental! Religion divides our world and on the back of that crazy things happen in which people are killed. Yes drugs, crime, disease, famine etc are bad but this is a society problem, this is due to human cravings for other things to experience emotions and 'highs' or due to lack of natural resources, climate or simple evolution of that countries infrastructure...etc. Religion vs Science.... there really is only one winner for me, crazy, crazy world. I think you'll find that the one thing that links all of the above is not religion, it's people. Religion gets a hard time on this forum as people only tend to see the bad. I'm not really a religious person, but the 10 commandments have done a fantastic job of keeping the much of the world 'on the straight and narrow' for the last few thousand years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Who isn't helping Africa? Have you ever seen comic relief? Oh yea do you actually contribute to any charity with your wages? Well I'm sure the government contribute alot ermmmm nah, but who funds the war in Iraq? Ermmmm the governments. Now if they actually cared they would fund the stupity of the war going on to these starving countries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 lmfao Seriously Jazz, quit while you're ahead. Al Qaeda are what is known as religious fanatics. They believe so strongly in their religion that they are willing to kill and sacrifice to clense the earth (remind you of anyone... what am I thinking, of course not). Take away religion and you take away the fanaticism. As for the oil??? Seriously??? lmfao does your love for al-qaida/taliban only go as far back as 9/11? did you know they existed and were created/controlled and paid for by the CIA against russia? how osama was seen as a rebel hero fighting against an evil communist nation? funny old world isn't it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 anyone know what proportion of the funds actually goes to the people we see on the tv? Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 You are being a tad hypocritical saying that what others say can be read as allegedly yet you chose to use the word "is" to state fact in your statements. which is why i said do your research... i've done mine, and it's lead me to believe 9/11 IS and inside job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Oh yea do you actually contribute to any charity with your wages? Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Do you? no... which is why i asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I agree mate, honestly i do. BUT (yeah there`s always a but) Your comparison becomes less and less destructive as you go down the ladder...Oh I agree with you, but the scale of affect is unrelated to the common cause; dominance. Without it one could argue that we would never have survived (theory of evolution and natural selection), but ironically with it we are unlikely to ever live side by side peacefully with all our fellow Homo sapiens. So how to fix it without releasing euphoria inducing drugs into the atmosphere? Accept the fact that we are not destined to be 'one' people any time soon and just get on with life. If you agree with someone else's views, or tastes, or share something common like driving a Supra, then join them. If not, leave them alone. Simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 although my take is i would rather try and lead a good life according to Gods commands - that way, when we get to the "other side" if i'm in the wrong i'll still be ok.... whereas if you were wrong... well i'm not sure they have supra forums there Alleged commands. It's only through word of mouth that you even know about them. Ever been in work and heard a story about someone grown arms and legs? I work with around 200 people, and by the time a story from the origin reaches me it has became quite the jackanory. Multiply that by 1000s of years, through millions of people, via countless languages and it can be hard to pinpoint the accuracy in any story. anyone know what proportion of the funds actually goes to the people we see on the tv? I often wondered that. I think it was actually on here that a statement was made that made me look at it differently. There are always fatcats out there to make money out of any situation possible. At the end of the day as long as those "people on TV" get some of the money that has been put forward by the public then it hasn't been pledged in vain. Granted we want to work hard to ensure that most of the money gets there, but the way society is just makes that a goal more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 anyone know what proportion of the funds actually goes to the people we see on the tv? 5% if I'm correct, for past 3 years iv been giving alot of my wages and when I last called they said 5% I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I wonder if Jazz eats shellfish - apparently Jesus said you're not supposed to (totally true). Maybe Jesus suffered from anaphylaxis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 which is why i said do your research... i've done mine, and it's lead me to believe 9/11 IS and inside job. Yes, so in your opinion it is an inside job. There is a fairly large difference between... In my opinion 9/11 is an inside job and 9/11 is an inside job FWIW I've seen all the theories, read all the stories and I haven't honestly came to a conclusion. A lot of religious people want to put blinkers on and point to everything other than religion though.... I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 does your love for al-qaida/taliban only go as far back as 9/11? did you know they existed and were created/controlled and paid for by the CIA against russia? how osama was seen as a rebel hero fighting against an evil communist nation? funny old world isn't it.... Not really, his family were visiting washington on the day of 9/11 and had to be ushered out for fear of a retribution. It isn't a hidden past, if you want to look for it, it just isn't a particularly publicised or glorified past. American media is very much controlled and conceited, in fact a lot of open minded truth seeking americans actually subscribe to the UK news to get a true feel for what is going on around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Alleged commands. It's only through word of mouth that you even know about them. Ever been in work and heard a story about someone grown arms and legs? I work with around 200 people, and by the time a story from the origin reaches me it has became quite the jackanory. Multiply that by 1000s of years, through millions of people, via countless languages and it can be hard to pinpoint the accuracy in any story. i'm not sure about the other books, but i know of the Qu'ran that it is ... From God > Angel Gabriel >Prophet Muhammad > scribes writing down on whatever they had access to in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 5% if I'm correct, for past 3 years iv been giving alot of my wages and when I last called they said 5% I think. For 4% I will promise you and your mates a better deal with more of the things you would like to believe. Guaranteed that if after death you are not satisfied, a full refund will be given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Ermmm if I'm correct why was there explosives found and planted in the twin towers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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