Big Mark Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Took my 03 Berlingo in for it's MOT today without being concerned about it passing but after looking at the advisory notes I'm not sure how it passed. The 5 advisories were. 1) Nearside front valve stem perishing and damaged 2) Offside front tyre 0.4mm of useable tread remaining, tyre worn close to the legal limit. (surely that's too close to the limit to pass) 3) Both front tyre pressure valves caps missing (is this even worth putting on an advisery) 4) Nearside front tire is standard car type, rest of tyres all van structure ply, nearside front incorrect (I didn't know there are differnt types of tyres for vans) 5) Nail in offside rear tyre. (surely it's not safe for them to let a vehicle pass with this) To me points 2 and especially 5 are rather serious. Even stranger tho is that when I collected the van the MOT bloke read through notes to himself before given me the papaer work and all he said was that there are some advisories but nothing serious! To top it off I drive the 2 mins back to the house and figure I'll stick the spare on (a spare i've never looked at) only to see it's got a deep crack in the tread 4-5 inches long. How did that pass the MOT? I'm not complaining as a pass is better than no pass but to me the whole point of an MOT is to prove a vehicle is 100% road worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 id rather it not pass , your life is werth more than a couple of tyres , sounds a dodgt MOT station to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 It was Kwik Fit. Only used them because it was £25 for the MOT when booked online using a discount code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nail in a tyre is an advisory, low but legal tread is an advisory, dont think valve caps matter and no idea on the differant tyres if their a fail. Spare tyre isn't checked is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 cheap , but not werth it if they are going to miss serious faults , what about what they didnt tell you , just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 I guess I should be gratefull it's on the advisory so that at least i know what needs doing. I had the exhaust, pads and disks changed a few months ago so I know they are all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awisto Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 cheap , but not werth it if they are going to miss serious faults , what about what they didnt tell you , just a thought What serious faults did they miss? how are they "dodgy"? It would say to me they've been very thorough by picking up the small advisories, they can't fail it on items that the law doesn't allow them to. As you'd be blaming them of being dodgy just to get more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I thought you didnt have to have a spare, but if it was present it had to be legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 I thought you didnt have to have a spare, but if it was present it had to be legal? That's what I thought so surely a big split/crck in it isn't road legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 What serious faults did they miss? how are they "dodgy"? It would say to me they've been very thorough by picking up the small advisories, they can't fail it on items that the law doesn't allow them to. As you'd be blaming them of being dodgy just to get more money.just being objective , rather pay £40 and know the test was done properly , as for the serious faults , well we will never know now will we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awisto Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 just being objective , rather pay £40 and know the test was done properly , as for the serious faults , well we will never know now will we So because it was £25 (BTW there is no minimum amount they can charge) you're saying it wasn't done properly and was dodgy? Spare tyre condition isn't checked, cracks/splits etc on the 4 main wheels, have to be a certain size/depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 I don't think the price reflects anything in this instance. And I assume that none of the advisory points they noted are MOT failures they haven't done anything wrong, but I am surprised that they didn't point out the advisories to me and try to sell me some tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I can't see the problem they advised that the tyres were legal but will need changing SOON ,and They spotted a nail in one of the tyres and informed you of it. I would have had the tyres changed before i put it through the MOT if i thought they would not pass. Now you have time to price up some tyres and get the best deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 1.6 mm legel tread depth, anything under that is a fail. If you dont feel safe with the advisory note's nothing stopping you changing all 4 tyres? M.O.T is minimum standard thats all, about to get a lot tougher next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 You can be possibly unique in the UK by tearing up the pass sheet, stamping your feet and demanding a proper failure note. Post it on You Tube, it will get loads of hits Follow up by by complaining to your doctor when he says you HAVEN'T got something nasty, and demand a measure up for a coffin Bring your Supra to me and I'll promise to find loads wrong with it, I could even scrap it , if it makes you happy WEIRD post ...... Makes a change from "Where can I find a 'CAT friendly' MOT tester?", I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 My MOT tester loves cats, he's got 2 tabbies and one black one which sort out any mice etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Should have taken my daily to the place you took your van, the test station came back with a list with some proper anal stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Don't get me wrong, I'm happy it passed. Just a little surprised that they didn't try to sell me tires and even more surprised that when they handed me the certificate after reading the advisories all they said was "a few advisories, nothing major". I wonder how many people would of just filed it away rather than looking at if first and be none the wiser. That's a little concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Should have taken my daily to the place you took your van, the test station came back with a list with some proper anal stuff. I went to a place like that a few years back. My car was due an MOT and I was hiring a van for the day and saw the MOT station next door. They picked up on every little thing they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Should have taken my daily to the place you took your van, the test station came back with a list with some proper anal stuff. What was on your list ? Stricter the better in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 were pretty strict but fair and try and do jobs as we go eg- replace blown bulbs and adjust headlight ect, at the end of the day its our bread and butter and why would anyone want a risky vehicle on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Lol most commen complaint with VOSA, my car should not have passed? Mainly people who just got second hand car with a new MOT. Funny that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What was on your list ? Stricter the better in my opinion An example was a crack on the rear bumper. It was quite minor (in my opinion), but it was listed as a fail item on the test sheet as it 'presented a risk to pedestrians should them come into contact with it'. The test station said if you stick some duck tape on it the it will be a pass. There were other things that were totally reasonable, but this crack was ridiculous, especially when the remedy could be as simple as sticking duck tape over it. And the only thing I was worried about when I dropped the car off, it passed on no problem - emmisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 You can be possibly unique in the UK by tearing up the pass sheet, stamping your feet and demanding a proper failure note. Post it on You Tube, it will get loads of hits Follow up by by complaining to your doctor when he says you HAVEN'T got something nasty, and demand a measure up for a coffin Bring your Supra to me and I'll promise to find loads wrong with it, I could even scrap it , if it makes you happy WEIRD post ...... Makes a change from "Where can I find a 'CAT friendly' MOT tester?", I suppose. :rlol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham S Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Took my 03 Berlingo in for it's MOT today without being concerned about it passing but after looking at the advisory notes I'm not sure how it passed. The 5 advisories were. 1) Nearside front valve stem perishing and damaged Only a fail if the damage or perished bits are bad enough to reveal the build structure under the rubber case 2) Offside front tyre 0.4mm of useable tread remaining, tyre worn close to the legal limit. (surely that's too close to the limit to pass) Not quite sure what that means. Basically, the centre 3/4 of the TREAD has to be at 1.6mm or above. 3) Both front tyre pressure valves caps missing (is this even worth putting on an advisery) Just covering their own arse, little bit picky personally that one! 4) Nearside front tire is standard car type, rest of tyres all van structure ply, nearside front incorrect (I didn't know there are differnt types of tyres for vans) I'd have to check up on that one to be 100% sure on the exact answer. Van tyres have a C rating (commercial) where-as car tyres have a normal rating, (i.e, H, W, V etc) I THINK it's ok to have a C rating tyre with a normal car one, you just can't have a cross ply tyre on the same axle as a radial. 5) Nail in offside rear tyre. (surely it's not safe for them to let a vehicle pass with this) Again, yes, it's not the safest thing to have but isn't a fail. I know it's a weird one but as long as you can't see any cords etc then it's fine. To me points 2 and especially 5 are rather serious. Even stranger tho is that when I collected the van the MOT bloke read through notes to himself before given me the papaer work and all he said was that there are some advisories but nothing serious! To top it off I drive the 2 mins back to the house and figure I'll stick the spare on (a spare i've never looked at) only to see it's got a deep crack in the tread 4-5 inches long. How did that pass the MOT? Spare tyre isn't part of the MOT, doesn't matter if you have one in there or not. Even if it has metal sticking out it's only an advise. I'm not complaining as a pass is better than no pass but to me the whole point of an MOT is to prove a vehicle is 100% road worthy. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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