Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi guys, I have 3 celica gt4s at the moment and fancy a change. Can some body tell me what's needed to do the above conversion? Is it a straight forward one? If not how much would a recommended garage charge to do it? I know other things are different too but they can be done at a later date. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 what are you looking to do change a TT auto to a TT6 if so you can kiss off 2k just for the6 speed box. and that is just the start of the bits, you need clutch, transmission, tunnel, pedals etc etc if you are looking to convert to a w58 5 speed box then the box is alot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 It would be the 5 speed as I've seen the prices of the 6 speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 And no it would be a automatic non turbo to a tt manual. Engine and gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 the 5 speed box will not last very long with TT power so i assume you mean you want to do a NA conversion, and prices have dropped so much in the past few months you may as well just buy a 5speed. unless you want to do the conversion on a aerotop? and if so get in contact with one of the traders on here they will sort you out EDIT just seen above it will not last long mate so you will have to make sure you have a light right foot through the low gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 It would be the 5 speed as I've seen the prices of the 6 speed. Wouldn't last long at all if you went BPU, stock power it would be 'ok' but 380bhp plus is a no no. Engine conversion would be about £2k-£2.5k iirc, manual conversion (for 5 speed) probably about £500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi it would be on a aerotop. I would want about 400bhp, I don't plan on forging etc. I could live with 2.5k to 3k all In for the conversion. But you got me worried now about this chocolate 5 speed box lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 As said the 5spd is not as strong at the 6spd and many have not been able to cope with TT power levels. If you are aiming for 400hp then you'd really need a 6spd gearbox. IMO if you want a manual TT the sensible and probably the cheapest option in the long run - an NA-TT will never command the same resale value as a genuine TT and may be difficult to sell on - would be to buy a genuine manual TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi it would be on a aerotop. I would want about 400bhp, I don't plan on forging etc. I could live with 2.5k to 3k all In for the conversion. But you got me worried now about this chocolate 5 speed box lol. 5-speed box won't last at 400bhp, you would need the 6-speed or R154. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 An R154 5 speed would be more thsn up to the task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I know what your saying nic. I just can't justify 15k for a manual tt aerotop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 R154 are they shorter ratios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 No its from the turbo Mk3 supra in 7M and JZ forms/Soarer/Chaser etc so will be longer ratios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I know what your saying nic. I just can't justify 15k for a manual tt aerotop. Not sure if you're aware but there were never any factory built RHD manual aero TT's, any that are available have had a manual conversion and will command a premium. Have you tried the autobox, they are very good and there have been many anti-auto Supra converts who love them? You can pick up a decent auto aero TT relatively cheap now, buying one of these and doing a 6spd or R154 5spd conversion could be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I'd agree, settle for a factory built auto TT aerotop. The things are that floppy it's pointless trying to make them into a decent track toy, so settle for posing and a slush box, and save the money The autos are actually a lot nicer to drive than the six speed manuals, IMO, the Getrag is an agricultural old thing. The five speeds would be on a wing and a prayer. I have seen several of the "cheaper" conversions, to do one properly will cost a lot. Far better to buy something factory built, and capitulate on the spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I wasn't aware nic. I can live with paying 2.5k for the conversion if that's the price to go from a auto non turbo to a manual turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 As far as I know there is quite few peopel runing w58 at bpu level? All depens of the way you drive If you dont push to hard w58 will do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry_10 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I am running a w58 gearbox at 427bhp and 430lbs ft torque and I do give it some stick and its been ok so far I think its mostly down to the condition of the gearbox but also how you drive will have an impact on things as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Can someone point me in the direction of the trader/traders that do the conversion please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Any body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Try Matt at TZJ engineering, he recently did a conversion on Blackie's car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy Bird Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Your talking a couple of grand or more for a coversion from a trader ive asked already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Does the price include the engine and manual gearbox (5 speed) if so i can live with 2.5k for the conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 2.5k = 6sp conversion for an auto TT to become a manual TT. No engine in that price. 5sp box = cheaper but in the end it will die. You need to start with an auto aero TT, not an NA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lewis_-w Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 lol this is getting confusing. Lots of different answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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