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Durandal

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Hi guys, I'm having a problem with a howling noise coming from my engine bay kind of like what you would get if you blew air across the top of a bottle. Could this be belts? Or maybe a vacuum leak. It happens at idle and while driving.

 

Also I finally update my garage with some picture, cheers.

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Hi guys, I'm having a problem with a howling noise coming from my engine bay kind of like what you would get if you blew air across the top of a bottle. Could this be belts? Or maybe a vacuum leak. It happens at idle and while driving.

 

Also I finally update my garage with some picture, cheers.

 

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I just took it for a rip to test turbo spooling through several gears all which seemed fine. The fans spun decently while the engine was off. I noticed the noise again on the way back while cruising in 3rd gear at around 2600 RPM but it sounded more like a bearing now that I listened to it some more. I'm pretty sure it's on the serpentine belt system. The fan looks like it has a bit of a wobble to it while running. I always thought that was kind of normal though. Do your fans look a bit wobbly while spinning?

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When you say "Death" Whine - do we know what the final cause of death was?

 

I think "death whine" refers to the turbo/s being on their way out. If it's happening at idle too then it's unlikely to be the turbos themselves.

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I just took it for a rip to test turbo spooling through several gears all which seemed fine. The fans spun decently while the engine was off. I noticed the noise again on the way back while cruising in 3rd gear at around 2600 RPM but it sounded more like a bearing now that I listened to it some more. I'm pretty sure it's on the serpentine belt system. The fan looks like it has a bit of a wobble to it while running. I always thought that was kind of normal though. Do your fans look a bit wobbly while spinning?

 

I don't think they do...........i would take off the large fan belt and then hand turn the upper pulleys and see if I can feel loose/roughness/play in any. You could run it briefly like this from cold and see if without this belt the noise is gone.

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suggest you thoroughly check the followings:

 

- crank pulley (it will delaminate over the years and break into 2 pieces!)

- V-belt tensioner pulley

- vacuum hoses (possible leakage somewhere)

- 1st turbo (death whine = f*cked up turbo!)

 

and last but not least, check if there's a Gremlin hiding under the hood... :)

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  • 2 weeks later...

Ok I'm pretty sure its the tensioner but I'm not sure if I should order a whole new tensioner assembly or an individual part. I'm guessing the wearing part in this is going to be the absorber or the bearing in the wheel. What usually goes wrong with these?

 

Edit: I'm getting ready to do my 96000km service and will be changing the coolant, thermostat, rad cap and vbelt. Is it common practice to change the water pump at this point?

 

Edit2: Someone on Supraforums.com list

 

Drive Belt Tensioner 16620-46070 LIST 195.34 COST 142.10 [6SPD]

Water pump 16100-49846 LIST 127.70 COST 92.89

Upper out gasket 16343-46030 list 3.20 cost 2.32

bypass o rings 96761-24023 2.46 cost 1.79 ea x 2

Front main seal 90311-46001 list 10.57 cost 7.65

Drive belt 90916-02310 list 66.06 cost 48.05

Timing belt 13568-49036 list 30.56 cost 22.23

cam seals 90311-40020 list 5.40 cost 3.93 ea x 2

Idler pulley13505-46041 list 73.65 cost 53.58

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