THE ANIMAL Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 hi everyone on this lovely sunny day in shropshire hope you all having a gud day, last week 20th april 2011 i have bought a toyota supra mk 4 non turbo jap import auto, it as covered 83000 miles and is in excellent condition. in the last 6 years it as only covered 5000 miles by its previous owner as was only used at weekends and sunny weather. it is totally standard apart from 18" alloys i want to make it sound better and go better, the fuel consumption is only 18 to the gallon and i am driving sensibly (honest) that seems a little high to me, im thinking maybe an oil,plug and filter change may be gud and full exhaust system induction kit / panel filter any proffesional advice would be much appreciated, thankyou for your time, THE ANIMAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RoundPound27 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 im not to sure on the Induction Kit for the Non-Turbo's since this is gonna be my first ever supra lol i do hear that Blitz makes some good exhausts for the non-turbo version its meant to sound very simlar to a turbo supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Fit an aftermarket exhaust and then look at upgrading brakes/suspension to make it "go better". Looking for power gains on an NA isn't going to gain you very much. As far as fuel consumption goes, look at replacing the O2 sensor(s) (I'm unsure if the NA has two). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 18mpg is about right on town driving/ motorway with some play time but check the o2 sensors to be sure. and dont buy an induction kit, the stock air box is the best just buy a good pannel filter for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Fit an aftermarket exhaust and then look at upgrading brakes/suspension to make it "go better". Looking for power gains on an NA isn't going to gain you very much. As far as fuel consumption goes, look at replacing the O2 sensor(s) (I'm unsure if the NA has two). looks like you beat me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 looks like you beat me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ANIMAL Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 how do i find out if 02 sensors playing up ? and thanks for other advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?152779-How-to-Clean-O2-sensors-in-NA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 either replace them or try cleaning them with lemon juice, do a search dude see what comes up... and it'll go faster down hill.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Just for some real world figures. I had a custom exhaust, double decat, tubular manifold and induction arm with cone filter made by a local specialist, along with iridium sparks and a royal purple oil injection (engine and trans). Dyno'd at 246bhp at wheels with 217 torque. The lot cost me £1100. I'll probably stop there but for another £800 I could add BMW throttle bodies (possibly another 20 - 30bhp) and £600 or so for a piggyback ECU and remap if i was inclined. Personally, if it's more power you want, save up for a TT. If I want more, that's what I'll be doing but for now an NA suits my purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamaSupra Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Welcome to the club!! Sounds a very tidy motor, any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ANIMAL Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 hks, do-luck ? which one do you recommend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Just for some real world figures. I had a custom exhaust, double decat, tubular manifold and induction arm with cone filter made by a local specialist, along with iridium sparks and a royal purple oil injection (engine and trans). Dyno'd at 246bhp at wheels with 217 torque. The lot cost me £1100. I'll probably stop there but for another £800 I could add BMW throttle bodies (possibly another 20 - 30bhp) and £600 or so for a piggyback ECU and remap if i was inclined. Personally, if it's more power you want, save up for a TT. If I want more, that's what I'll be doing but for now an NA suits my purpose. I'm sorry neo but your estimates are well out. ITBS don't net you HP. So if your at 246 at the wheels that would make your flywheel HP what? Edited April 27, 2011 by Kirk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjp Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) You should be getting 25-27 mpg if your with sensible driving. As changes to be made you want HKS panel filter (been the best one in my car) remove second cat stainless cat back exhaust lower but not too much as it upsets the driving feel of the car and thats about it without spending silly money which you would have been better off spending on a TT Edited April 27, 2011 by gjp I'm an arse (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 when i bought my car i travelled from milton keynes to devon, i managed 31 mpg on the motorway at a constant 60mph. but then that was ALOT of constant driving as i was expecting the fuel to be worse. a good exhaust and decat will let the engine pick up better. i always felt around 4k rpm it started to pick up, now with a 2.5" exhaust and 3" decat the engine feels much smoother. if you want power then NA-T is an expensive way to go. TT engine swap is probably cheaper. but then its down to personal choice. im going NA-T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 hey buddy, where in shopshire you from? as i am in shrewsbury week times, exhaust, loads to choose from! air filters stated above) dont change keep standard one. daz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 You should be getting 25-27 mph if your with sensible driving. I know it's an NA, but they can still go much faster than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 LOL nice spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ANIMAL Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 im getting no where near that to the gallon, im only doing between 50 and 60 on motorway and sticking to speed limits on other roads you can almost see the fuel gauge drop, i put £30.00 and that did 89mile.as for upgrades hks panel filter and remove second cat and ststem is on my list megan racing for exhaust ?? or anyone got any other ideas, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ANIMAL Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 hey buddy, where in shopshire you from? as i am in shrewsbury week times, exhaust, loads to choose from! air filters stated above) dont change keep standard one. daz. hi pal, i live in shrewsbury what exhaust you got ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 did you check the 02 sensors? And where are the pics of your car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 im getting no where near that to the gallon, im only doing between 50 and 60 on motorway and sticking to speed limits on other roads you can almost see the fuel gauge drop, i put £30.00 and that did 89mile.as for upgrades hks panel filter and remove second cat and ststem is on my list megan racing for exhaust ?? or anyone got any other ideas, thanks. I'd say it will be the 02 sensors, also check fuel tank doesn't have a leak (I am not joking they are getting on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ANIMAL Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 im getting lemon juice tommorrow and will leave them overnight thursday, ive got to polish and wax before i put pics on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Ive never ONCE heard of a tank leaking without the assistance of a drill to be fair abz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Ive never ONCE heard of a tank leaking without the assistance of a drill to be fair abz Never heard of the tank leaking, but the fuel lines DO rot through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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