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I caught two youngsters 12-13 yrs old who had broken into my old 300zx actually caught them inside it with my stereo in their hands on my drive.

 

I stood by the drivers door to stop them getting out and called the police,

 

As it was a very hot day I agreed to let them out of the car but made them both stand behind my garden wall and wait for the police to arrive,

 

45 minutes later two female coppers turn up tell the boys off and threaten to take them home and inform there parents then after about 10 minutes of lecturing they let them go,

 

Then I get warned that they could prosecute me for illegal detention on the boys,

 

So next time i wont bother calling the police as they cant be bothered to sort anything out around here unless in involves points on your driving licience!!

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ahhhh you have just reminded me i need to phone that daft copper who who said she was going to throw the book at that truck driver for taking my wing mirror off and denting my front wing , it now turns out that she isnt doing him for dangerous driving and insted doing him for being on his phone 1hr before , dont know how this works out as i thought her warning the truck driver an hour before acted as his punishment :search:

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What is the procedure for performing a citizens arrest? Do you have to say things in a particular way? What happens if the person just laughs at you and runs off?

 

To be honest I'm not sure as I have never come across anyone who has ever done one.

 

Police officers are required to state the grounds, the offence for which they are being arrested (contrary to popular belief you dont need to state the act and section) the reason for the arrest (SOCPA - IDCOPPLAN), state the caution (although under code C, section 10(3) an officer is not required to say it verbatim but as accurate as possible).

 

If however it is not practicable to do this, such as fighting with them, it should be done as soon as is practicable and the reason for the delay documented in the officers notes (then they will either laugh, run or laugh and run).

 

It would be unfair for such procedure to be expected from a member of the public. I would think telling them why and stating that you are performing a citizens arrest would be enough.

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I caught two youngsters 12-13 yrs old who had broken into my old 300zx actually caught them inside it with my stereo in their hands on my drive.

 

I stood by the drivers door to stop them getting out and called the police,

 

As it was a very hot day I agreed to let them out of the car but made them both stand behind my garden wall and wait for the police to arrive,

 

45 minutes later two female coppers turn up tell the boys off and threaten to take them home and inform there parents then after about 10 minutes of lecturing they let them go,

 

Then I get warned that they could prosecute me for illegal detention on the boys,

 

So next time i wont bother calling the police as they cant be bothered to sort anything out around here unless in involves points on your driving licience!!

 

Seriously? :blink: That's just rediculous.

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Would you HONESTLY recommend a member of the public try to effect a citizen's arrest with the current Human Rights Act, and the general way the courts handle things these days? It would have to be truly exceptional personal circumstances for me to even think about it :)

 

In short Chris no I would not recommend it. I have personal protective equipment and for the most part the backing of the law. As a citizen your on your own. The human rights act makes it more likely that you will suffer prosecution from the alleged suspect. If not criminally then almost certainly in the civil court.

 

As you said exceptional circumstances.

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