Subaru Impreza P1 or Mitsubishi Evo 6

[j_jza80]

The P1 is definately more special, but neither car will seem reliable next to a well maintained Supra. personally I'd rather go for something a little softer and more reliable for a run around ( Honda Accord type R springs to mind)

[Brazil]

The P1's don't need a full engine rebuild unless the owners have not done any research and let the crank go and destroy the block.

 

Basically all Type R Impreza's(which the P1 was an 'officially imported' version of) have crank failure at 60k-85k depending on how hard it's been driven, this was down to a crank design flaw but as it wouldn't fail until the cars were out of warranty Subaru weren't that bothered about a recall. On my parents which had an extended warranty it was replaced free of charge before it took out the block(it would of been £800 if out of warranty) however if you just leave it and the crank snaps it causes a huge amount of damage and requires a full engine rebuild.

 

So either get a low mileage P1 and replace the crank or get one that's already had it replaced.

 

The Evo's are prone to have AYC(Active Yaw Control) failure which cost £'000's to fix.

 

I got this reply from a guy with a standard 2001 P1 with 51k miles for sale when I asked about the crank replacement. What do you think?

 

It hasn't and has shown no signs of any engine failure, the knock sensor hasn't shown up any issues either.I am well aware of this being a problem on a lot of P1s though.

[Tyson]

I have always been an evo man so i'd say go with the 6, but boxer engines sound like porn !!!

[marc_p]

I got this reply from a guy with a standard 2001 P1 with 51k miles for sale when I asked about the crank replacement. What do you think?

 

It hasn't and has shown no signs of any engine failure, the knock sensor hasn't shown up any issues either.I am well aware of this being a problem on a lot of P1s though.

 

I know it's a problem on all P1s, not just some, however, if the car has been looked after well and not driven hard all the time it could have a good 30k miles left in it until the crank goes.

 

If you do a search on Google I'm sure some threads will come up from SIDC(the owners club) as to prevention of the problem, when it's likely to go, how to tell if it's about to go, etc,etc

[Guest Mr M]

I have now Evo 6 and it fantastic machine. I have before a Type RA and it was very good. When I was a member on Scooby Forum everyone always having issues with their motors.

The main problem with GSR is AYC but that is around £500 supply and fit (you can run for a while with open dif/no AYC, it is not major problem but should be fixed quickly), much more money needed for rebuild of a Scooby even if only for Crank. I think Evo is better choice, only after Supra!

[DuaneT.Turbo]

Gt4?

[Suprab1]

I have now Evo 6 and it fantastic machine. I have before a Type RA and it was very good. When I was a member on Scooby Forum everyone always having issues with their motors.

The main problem with GSR is AYC but that is around £500 supply and fit (you can run for a while with open dif/no AYC, it is not major problem but should be fixed quickly), much more money needed for rebuild of a Scooby even if only for Crank. I think Evo is better choice, only after Supra!

 

Your spot on. The most commen fault with the evos is the AYC pump. Harry Hockly motorsport will refurbish the AYC pump for about £500. The biggest problem with them though is trapped air. Mitsubishi recomend changing the AYC fluid every 4500 miles but what they don't tell you is that is only the clutch part & not the pump fluid. The clutch part is just like changing gear oil & dosn't need bleeding, but the pump part (fluid in the boot) only really needs done around every 3 years or 30000-40000 miles & will need bleeding out afterwards.

 

Evo 6 is the car i would go for & the engines are bullet proof (but the supras is nuke proof )