Brazil Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I am wanting to buy a second car so I can free up the Supra to work on it some more plus I will be using the car to go surfing. I am keen on either the Subaru Impreza P1 or the Mitsubishi Evo 6 Ralliart/GSR. Which one do you think will be more reliable or which one is a better car in your opinion..? http://images03.olx.co.uk/ui/4/44/89/62603589_1-Pictures-of-Subaru-Impreza-P1-Ltd-Edition.jpg http://members.multimania.nl/rstrotterdam/foto/Mitsubishi%20Evo%206.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcAB10 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 P1 is a nice car, I've always prefered evos over imprezas though, just think they are cooler cars.. But that's doesn't really have anything to do with anything mechanically lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 The Evo 6 GSR is almost 1/2 the price almost of the P1 (Evo 6 with 50ish k miles 5.5, P1 7.5k), I am border line swaying for the looks of the evo and the practicality of having 4 doors but you can't beat the sound of the Subaru P1 with a BOV..! It's seriously amazing..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 P1 is sexual. Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 There like for like IMO, both can give engine troubles after 60k if they haven't been maintained correctly, the evos diffs can shit there self's when the ayc packs up, I would go evo 6 and try and find one with the non ayc, rs diff setup already fitted! I think if you drove both the evo would pull you in straight away. "The way a Subaru p1 sounds with a dump valve", I give up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biguns Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Reliability mate go for the P1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Reliability mate go for the P1 I've also been told from several friends that have owned both cars that the Subaru is more reliable..! Obviously like any old car it depends on how well maintained the car was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Out of those, the P1. But, if you can get a 6.5 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Plethora Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 This needs to be a poll, I would go with the Evo6 though myself, chicks dig dudes in Evo6's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest livingthedeadbe Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Impreza!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinboy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Neither. They are both horrid. Just look at them again, and then look at your supra. Buy a fiesta and go single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 This needs to be a poll, I would go with the Evo6 though myself, chicks dig dudes in Evo6's. Done it, my first poll..! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Impreza P1. I'd love to have one as well as my Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 P1.... reliable??? Are you guys kidding? They virtually need a rebuild after 60k. Suberpoo got into a bit of bother about it a few years back IIRC. Almost every P1 I have known has had the engine rebuilt. Don't get me wrong they are nice fast cars but they are a far cry, reliability wise, from an Evo. The Evo 6 engine won't cause you any hassle at all. The only reliability issue is already mentioned, that being the AYC unit. If the budget will stretch get the TM edition or go for the RS. The RS won't have creature comforts though, like aircon or electric windows etc, but it is very well setup and extremely quick on the road (140ishmph is the top speed due to gearing though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 P1.... reliable??? Are you guys kidding? They virtually need a rebuild after 60k. Suberpoo got into a bit of bother about it a few years back IIRC. Almost every P1 I have known has had the engine rebuilt. Don't get me wrong they are nice fast cars but they are a far cry, reliability wise, from an Evo. The Evo 6 engine won't cause you any hassle at all. The only reliability issue is already mentioned, that being the AYC unit. If the budget will stretch get the TM edition or go for the RS. The RS won't have creature comforts though, like aircon or electric windows etc, but it is very well setup and extremely quick on the road (140ishmph is the top speed due to gearing though). Interesting, thanks Scott..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 ive been looking at this post for 15mins and honestly i cant pick one!!!!! thats totaly no use to you i know [OOPS][/OOPS] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Tommi Mäkinen Edition 6.5 /thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 no i retract my prev statement and im going for the P1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Evo over a impreza all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 My parents have had a P1 and an Evo 6 and I can safely say the P1 was far superior in my eyes, the Evo got boring very quickly IMO, the P1 was also more 'spritely' it felt more agile and seemed to pick up pace out of corners much quicker(plus it looked better ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra joe Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 iD go evo, but the p1 will hold more of its value due to being rarer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 P1.... reliable??? Are you guys kidding? They virtually need a rebuild after 60k. Suberpoo got into a bit of bother about it a few years back IIRC. Almost every P1 I have known has had the engine rebuilt. Don't get me wrong they are nice fast cars but they are a far cry, reliability wise, from an Evo. The Evo 6 engine won't cause you any hassle at all. The only reliability issue is already mentioned, that being the AYC unit. If the budget will stretch get the TM edition or go for the RS. The RS won't have creature comforts though, like aircon or electric windows etc, but it is very well setup and extremely quick on the road (140ishmph is the top speed due to gearing though). I'm seen a few P1's advertised that has had their engine rebuilt around the 60k miles like you said, in your opinion would it be better to purchase a clean P1 with 50k miles or one that’s had and engine rebuilt or replaced at 50k it’s done 20k miles since? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I'm seen a few P1's advertised that has had their engine rebuilt around the 60k miles like you said, in your opinion would it be better to purchase a clean P1 with 50k miles or one that’s had and engine rebuilt or replaced at 50k it’s done 20k miles on a freshly built engine? The P1's don't need a full engine rebuild unless the owners have not done any research and let the crank go and destroy the block. Basically all Type R Impreza's(which the P1 was an 'officially imported' version of) have crank failure at 60k-85k depending on how hard it's been driven, this was down to a crank design flaw but as it wouldn't fail until the cars were out of warranty Subaru weren't that bothered about a recall. On my parents which had an extended warranty it was replaced free of charge before it took out the block(it would of been £800 if out of warranty) however if you just leave it and the crank snaps it causes a huge amount of damage and requires a full engine rebuild. So either get a low mileage P1 and replace the crank or get one that's already had it replaced. The Evo's are prone to have AYC(Active Yaw Control) failure which cost £'000's to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 The P1's don't need a full engine rebuild unless the owners have not done any research and let the crank go and destroy the block. Basically all Type R Impreza's(which the P1 was an 'officially imported' version of) have crank failure at 60k-85k depending on how hard it's been driven, this was down to a crank design flaw but as it wouldn't fail until the cars were out of warranty Subaru weren't that bothered about a recall. On my parents which had an extended warranty it was replaced free of charge before it took out the block(it would of been £800 if out of warranty) however if you just leave it and the crank snaps it causes a huge amount of damage and requires a full engine rebuild. So either get a low mileage P1 and replace the crank or get one that's already had it replaced. The Evo's are prone to have AYC(Active Yaw Control) failure which cost £'000's to fix. Thanks Marc, that puts everything in prospective..! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 EVO6 RS version evrytime. As it happens, I have mine currently for sale ! :) http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2151014.htm As mentioned by some already, there is no AYC to give you any hassel on RS versions. Mine is the RS2 version, so it is a UK Ralliart car (not classed as a grey import). The RS2 versions are similar to the RS, but they come with many 'extras'. Such as bigger brakes, electric windows/mirrors, longer gearing to make motorway driving bearable, etc. etc. Its a stock(ish) car with relatively high(ish) miles ont he clock....most of them are easy motorway miles by the way. (The first owner used to commute between Scotland and London - when petrol was cheap). Mileage does however work out to be around the UK average milage on a car of that age. Give me a PM if want any more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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