Geezabloke Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 And Europe got the Aerotop. The UK was the only place not to get it. Its because we have corners to negotiate here....... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Alex, you miss my point. I don't care why it's there. I don't like it and wouldn't have it on my car. Aesthetics, cost, legislation and speed limits are your guesses why it has, or hasn't been added. What I have been questioning is all the performance/engine cooling claims that are crap. Despite your original post and a handful of others, everyone has said its for extra 'required' cooling. As a blanket statement I said 'prove it'. I don't have the answers to why it was added, but I would bet an awfulk lot of money that it's not performance/cooling based. I'd heard that whilst testing at high speeds for prolonged periods of time, the exhaust manifold started to show hairline fractures. Hence the 'Euro' car getting the scoop, which prevented this. I'm perfectly happy with that explanation and it could very easily be true. However, the only way we'll ever know for certain is either Toyota to confirm or explain another reason. Or, get two identical cars, one with scoop and one without, and get them to charge up and down the German Autobahns for a few days, then rip them apart for analysis.... Aside from that, I think it's a stuck-on ugly thing, and don't really care anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I'd heard that whilst testing at high speeds for prolonged periods of time, the exhaust manifold started to show hairline fractures. Hence the 'Euro' car getting the scoop, which prevented this. I'm perfectly happy with that explanation and it could very easily be true. However, the only way we'll ever know for certain is either Toyota to confirm or explain another reason. Or, get two identical cars, one with scoop and one without, and get them to charge up and down the German Autobahns for a few days, then rip them apart for analysis.... Aside from that, I think it's a stuck-on ugly thing, and don't really care anyway Okay, thats obviously it. I'll stop driving my J-spec in case the engine cracks then. I give up with the whole scoop thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Okay, thats obviously it. I'll stop driving my J-spec in case the engine cracks then. I give up with the whole scoop thing. How many UK's have you seen with cracked manifolds or blocks due to overheating ? See! So it must work then! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Dead topic. Bored and unsubscribing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Okay, thats obviously it. I'll stop driving my J-spec in case the engine cracks then. I give up with the whole scoop thing. LOL, Have yout continously driven at 155mph for about 3-4 hours non-stop? - Do you not think it's concievable that Toyota may have tested for this? As I said earlier, I really don't give a hoot, but it sounds feasable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 LOL, Have yout continously driven at 155mph for about 3-4 hours non-stop? - Do you not think it's concievable that Toyota may have tested for this? As I said earlier, I really don't give a hoot, but it sounds feasable...465 miles on a tankful @ 155mph? That would be nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 lmao! fair point! Did anyone see what they said on Top gear about how quickly the SLR could empty its tank?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 LOL, Have yout continously driven at 155mph for about 3-4 hours non-stop? - Do you not think it's concievable that Toyota may have tested for this? As I said earlier, I really don't give a hoot, but it sounds feasable... We go round in cirlces. I obviously wouldn't drive like that. But neither would anyone in the UK. How does that explain why the scoop is there? If you're going to say German Autobahn, why didn't they only put the scoop on German cars and save the money on the rest of them? Becasue there's a chance another European could be driven in Germany? What about the import market from Japan? If this was a problem they would have added the scoop to the cars knowing that alot of them get imported to the UK/Europe. Ahhhh, fcuk it 465 miles on a tankful @ 155mph? That would be nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 well chaps this question has a little bit more significance for me, 'cause my bonnet is a bit f00ked and I don't like the scoop too much, so I'm having a J-Spec bonnet retro-fitted. Hope it doesn't cause me any problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Hope it doesn't cause me any problems I don't think it will cause you any difference mate, not in a police state like the UK anyway. As said time and again, this is meant to alleviate heat related effects at prolonged high-speed, full-boost operation something only possible in Autobahns, oval circuits etc. Not likely in the UK, you'll be nicked well before any cracks appear in the manifold The closest I've been to such a Cannonball run in the UK has been London (well, just off M4 J5) to Glasgow (southern, near the Barras) in 4 hours + one stop for fuel. No I didn't get done, but they did chase me down on the way back because I got cheeky . I weaseled myself free in a slimy sort of way, but the risk of a prison sentence (serious speeds) is not worth the adrenaline rush, if I may say:innocent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Hope it doesn't cause me any problems Only the resale value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Only the resale value yeah I was thinking that, which is why I'm keeping the scoop and its anciliaries so I can fit them later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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