j_jza80 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I thought this may be of interest to some of you. It a Turbocharger setup (or Turbosupercharger as it was originally known) from an American P-47 ww2 fighter. Quite suprising how the basic layout hasn't changed much over the last 70 years Infact, I find it odd how some technology from the era has evolved massively, and some hasn't at all. Ie, the design of combat aircraft has changed massively. However, the design of guns has hardly changed at all. Many eastern bloc weapons are based on ww2 design (ak47 for example). The belgians still use an exact copy of the German MG42 as a support weapon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Still no match for a big single Supra though Very interesting to sad geeks like me. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 still no match for a big single supra though very interesting to sad geeks like me us. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 However, the design of guns has hardly changed at all. Many eastern bloc weapons are based on ww2 design (ak47 for example). The belgians still use an exact copy of the German MG42 as a support weapon! There is a big reason for that. A firearm is built around the premise that the only times it's actually needed is when your life is under immediate massive threat. You absolutely 100% need that gun to work, immediately, no matter what the conditions are. If it might not, it's worthless. There isn't anything else in the world that has such rigorous demands - mountain climbing equipment is checked before planned usage, parachutes and ejector seats are checked before flights, alarm systems have redundancy, you get the idea. A gun is a single point of failure that needs to work instantly at 4am in the rain aftter being dropped down some stairs and into a muddy puddle. So you don't get bells and whistles, you don't get electronics, you just get massively overengineered simple designs. Some people have tried selling firearms with fancy construction and electronic safety systems etc. - can you name any? No you can't - and there is a reason for that Having said that, you do actually get some evolutions, like competition pistols and rifles, and especially race guns for Practical Pistol Unlimited class in the States. They are bonkers skeletal tuned creatures that let you fire 16 rounds in 3 seconds with no muzzle rise and change mags in under a second. But you damn well wouldn't rely on one as a self defence gun because they need constant attention and are relatively fragile. It may interest you that the Colt 1911 is still in production in a pretty much unchanged fashion, one hundred years on - I can't think of any other product in the world that can claim anything close to that -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The mg-42 is immense and will never change, its so cool that its the sand troopers weapon of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 There is a big reason for that. A firearm is built around the premise that the only times it's actually needed is when your life is under immediate massive threat. You absolutely 100% need that gun to work, immediately, no matter what the conditions are. If it might not, it's worthless. There isn't anything else in the world that has such rigorous demands - mountain climbing equipment is checked before planned usage, parachutes and ejector seats are checked before flights, alarm systems have redundancy, you get the idea. A gun is a single point of failure that needs to work instantly at 4am in the rain aftter being dropped down some stairs and into a muddy puddle. So you don't get bells and whistles, you don't get electronics, you just get massively overengineered simple designs. Some people have tried selling firearms with fancy construction and electronic safety systems etc. - can you name any? No you can't - and there is a reason for that Having said that, you do actually get some evolutions, like competition pistols and rifles, and especially race guns for Practical Pistol Unlimited class in the States. They are bonkers skeletal tuned creatures that let you fire 16 rounds in 3 seconds with no muzzle rise and change mags in under a second. But you damn well wouldn't rely on one as a self defence gun because they need constant attention and are relatively fragile. It may interest you that the Colt 1911 is still in production in a pretty much unchanged fashion, one hundred years on - I can't think of any other product in the world that can claim anything close to that -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 The mg-42 is immense and will never change, its so cool that its the sand troopers weapon of choice. The Colonial Marines in 'Aliens' use them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 It may interest you that the Colt 1911 is still in production in a pretty much unchanged fashion, one hundred years on - I can't think of any other product in the world that can claim anything close to that -An anvil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 a prostitute still the same product on offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Love how we are now mainly talking guns now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The Colonial Marines in 'Aliens' use them too Not seen that, they have the m4a1 pulse rirle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Wow at the gun knowledge here and eeek how scary lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 -An anvil? I proper laughed out loud at that one, good point well made. It does have a few less moving parts though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Not seen that, they have the m41a pulse rirle. The Pulse rifle is really another WW2 machine gun with some dress up bits (Thompson I believe). The Smart gun a couple of them carry is an MG42, lightly dressed up and with a bit more muzzle flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Ah right starwars stuuff i know as i used to make replicas was good money till the arse dropped out the market, still have bits of trooper all over the place lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 You wouldn't happen to have a spare shoulder strap (the ridged top strap) for standard Imp armour would you? I've bust mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 You wouldn't happen to have a spare shoulder strap (the ridged top strap) for standard Imp armour would you? I've bust mine. May have one some where in the shed, will have to check I know I have a biker scout face piece there as I found that the other night. When sorting out the moulds. I take it you have the fx kit? made from abs plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 The ribbed bit like this I take it you are after. http://www.stormtrooper-shop.co.uk/images/product/image/794801744.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 That's the very chap. Yes it's abs, from White Armour many moons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Are they still running, I have not heard anything about them for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Don't think so and a quick google didn't bring them up. It was probably about 10 years ago when I got the armour. Got the main parts of a TIE pilot suit, too. Just lacking the wrist panel and the actual boiler suit. I really wanted to build a pc into the replica R2 unit they did, but it was about £2500 so that idea soon got scrapped. Anyway, we seem to have thoroughly derailed a sensible engineering thread with geekery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TIE-Jumpsuit-Star-Wars-Pilot-Flightsuit-Uniform-Costume-/120565526935?pt=Adult_Fancy_Dress_UK&var=&hash=item61ca2785fe#ht_4846wt_905 Good supplier here mate. Sorry to op for the de rail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Damn you, lol. Good job I can't get on ebay at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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