Neil_M Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Folks, Just a query on fitting BBS wheels to the Supra. Firstly do BBS make wheels to fit the car? I've see a few fitted on Supra's, has this been with adaptors? I'm getting responses back from alloy suppliers that states BBS don't make them to fit the car... Possibly in Japan you may be able to find the size. Can you guys confirm the info below is correct? I have been looking at CH's and LM's I believe the bolt pattern is 5 x 114.3? I should be looking at the following size, widths and offsets? Front Size: 18 x 9 (42mm offset) Rear Size: 18 x 10 (50mm offset) I believe the Supra Spigot diameter is 60.1? Many thanks in advance! Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Bolt pattern is correct mate. Sizes seem ok, but I think the offsets might be too high (I'm sure someone will clarify this!!?) Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keron Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 iirc bbs dont exist anymore do they?? ive just got some forged bbs 18"s in...;-) got rs761 made in japan on them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I wanted some BBS CH's for mine as well and was told by some alloys website they didn't do them in that fitment, can't remember what the site was now Will be interested to see how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_M Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks for the replies folks... Keron, you could be right I do remember they were in difficulties some time ago. Anyone else have any more info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I believe the bolt pattern is 5 x 114.3? I should be looking at the following size, widths and offsets? Front Size: 18 x 9 (42mm offset) Rear Size: 18 x 10 (50mm offset) I believe the Supra Spigot diameter is 60.1? The PCD (bolt pattern) is correct and the sizes/offsets are okay. The thing you will need to check is if the wheels will clear your brake calipers. The Supra came with 2 brake options the smaller F-2pot/R-1pot and the larger F-4pot/R-2pot. If you have the larger brakes fitted you will need to check if there is enough clearance between the front face of the brake calipers and the rear face of the wheel spokes. If you're not sure which brakes you have post some pics so we can identify which they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_M Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 The UK 4 pot jobbies Nic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_M Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Some replies I have had... "The CH is only made in 5x114.3 in an 18x8.0 ET38, and the LM from Germany for the UK market is only made in a 5x112 (closest to 5x114.3) but et’s are low so not ideal." "BBS Germany do not offer any wheel for Toyota Supra. It may be possible to get the BBS LM wheel from Japan but it is much more expensive than the CH wheels" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The UK 4 pot jobbies Nic. In that case you may have problems with those offsets, the BBS LM wheels are quite dished so there is less clearance, I'm pretty sure in those sizes/offsets that they wouldn't clear the larger brakes. The BBS CH wheels have a lot more clearance, they *may* fit in those sizes/offsets, but best to check by test fitting them first. A lower offset of around 35-40 would move the wheel outwards allowing more clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_M Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks for the info Nic . Do you have any idea on the offsets I should be looking at, to clear with UK callipers? I guess the two different styles of the LM and CH make it a little hard to call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenttu Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) I got 18" BBS LMs in my car but i dont have a clue what the offset is.. Edited March 30, 2011 by Tenttu (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_M Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 No worries Tenttu thank you. I presume they dont have any adaptors etc? Is ET stamped on them anywhere to identify the offset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenttu Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 No worries Tenttu thank you. I presume they dont have any adaptors etc? Is ET stamped on them anywhere to identify the offset? I think it is stamped on but im not sure. I will have to check that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_M Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you have any idea on the offsets I should be looking at, to clear with UK callipers? I guess the two different styles of the LM and CH make it a little hard to call? The width and offset required to clear the calipers varies depending on the wheel design. I'm not sure if anyone has got a dimensioned template of the caliper you can work from. Alternatively you could remove a wheel and measure from the face of the hub (the surface the wheel bolts against) to the outer surface of the caliper, if you gave this dimension to any decent wheel supplier they would be able to advise on offset needed. Do you have a link to the wheel sizes and offsets that each wheel is available in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I got 18" BBS LMs in my car but i dont have a clue what the offset is.. You will find all the details between the bolts on the wheel if they are genuine. I had them stamped into mine, I'll see if I can find the details. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Just done a search in the Supra Garage for BBS, see HERE see if there are any members with the same wheels who can advise about offsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Found it! My tyres were 275 rear and 235 front with perfect fitment. I know all this as I sold my LM's this year. The sizes are stil there. Rear: 10Jx18 H2 ET50 Front: 9Jx18 H2 ET42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Found it! My tyres were 275 rear and 235 front with perfect fitment. I know all this as I sold my LM's this year. The sizes are stil there. Rear: 10Jx18 H2 ET50 Front: 9Jx18 H2 ET42 Same here, fitted like a glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenttu Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 You will find all the details between the bolts on the wheel if they are genuine. I had them stamped into mine, I'll see if I can find the details. Ian Found it! My tyres were 275 rear and 235 front with perfect fitment. I know all this as I sold my LM's this year. The sizes are stil there. Rear: 10Jx18 H2 ET50 Front: 9Jx18 H2 ET42 Okay. I will check that. I know they are 9J x18 at the back and 8J x18 in the front. I allso have 355mm Brembo brakes in the front with 4 pot calibers and uk supra rear brakes. In the front between the rim and the brake caliber there is about 5mm so they fit like a clove I will have to get back with the ET... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Here is a bit of info regarding minimun/safe wheel dimensions required to clear UK 4 pots Compare these figures to any wheel and you won't have clearence issues or, worse still, buy the wrong wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenttu Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Okay. I will check that. I know they are 9J x18 at the back and 8J x18 in the front. I allso have 355mm Brembo brakes in the front with 4 pot calibers and uk supra rear brakes. In the front between the rim and the brake caliber there is about 5mm so they fit like a clove I will have to get back with the ET... ET in the front is 40 and in the back 42. Ou and i lied about the gap between brake caliber and rim its actually 11.5mm Edited March 30, 2011 by Tenttu (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Myself and Jimojameso both have 18' BBS LM's with U.k brakes, however I have almost twice the clearance than james , and neither of us are using spacers. I recently had mine refurbished by a guy who specialises in BBS and he told me that mine are a rare 'Jap Fitment'. I have no idea how true this is but there is a noticeable difference on clearance. You can just make out the numbers on these pics of my wheels which my help Edited March 30, 2011 by ScottC (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenttu Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Myself and Jimojameso both have 18' BBS LM's with U.k brakes, however I have almost twice the clearance than james , and neither of us are using spacers. I recently had mine refurbished by a guy who specialises in BBS and he told me that mine are a rare 'Jap Fitment'. I have no idea how true this is but there is a noticeable difference on clearance. You can just make out the numbers on these pics of my wheels that my help http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=127486&d=1298563295 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=127483&d=1298563295 Loving the gunmetal color!! I have gold ones and also "rare jap fitment" if it means 5x114,3 bolt pattern? Edited March 30, 2011 by Tenttu (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Loving the gunmetal color!! I have gold ones and also "rare jap fitment" if it means 5x114,3 bolt pattern? Thanks, mine were gold only a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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