Benyon Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Just caught this on the news (not the full story but most of it), Saying that the general public should step in if they see a crime being commited. My friend got 2 years & still in jail after catching the teen that smashed up his conservatory with bricks and rocks. So what you suppose to do EDIT: My friend gave the kid a few face digs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 If that's the Peerage bint, what she's actually advocating is allowing civvies to use speed cameras. Because, like, that'll fix chav scum crime, won't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra digsey Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Just caught this on the news (not the full story but most of it), Saying that the general public should step in if they see a crime being commited. My friend got 2 years & still in jail after catching the teen that smashed up his conservatory with bricks and rocks. So what you suppose to do EDIT: My friend gave the kid a few face digs your mate got 2 years for giving a kid a few digs? did he have previous? thats a bit harsh!. the police are only bothered with raking in cars fines and silly crimes rather than catching real crims its a disgrace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 A few digs? How many exactly and what was the damage? Be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 It didnt mention anything to do with cars on the news it was just talking about streetcrime/antisocial behavior ect. Some woman thinks its the peoples jobs to stop streetcrime, I think its great passing this duty over to people who dont have training or not allowed to use firearms or weapons. I mean round here (and most places) if someone stuck their nose in a gangs business then they will be hospitalised (spelling) simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra digsey Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 if someone stuck their nose in a gangs business then they will be hospitalised (spelling) simple as that. if your lucky. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 A few digs? How many exactly and what was the damage? Be honest. Yeah my bad, I say a few digs because thats how I would discribe it however he broke the kids nose (it was still only a few digs though). Bare in mind my firend has 3 kids and any one of them could have been in the conservatory at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 i agree, i also just watched the news, +++ there laying off cops aint they ? 10% of them, so thats more crime, america your a hero for taking out a criminal, here!! you get jailed? uk succkksss!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 if your lucky. lol Yeah you're right. Just seen on the news again that this lady (the one causing the fuss) lost her husband when he tried to tackle a gang, So because of this she wants more people to tackle gangs which will most likely result in more innocent deaths using her husband as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-one234 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 i personally think that if you see a crime being commited, any decent person would do something about it, not just turn a blind eye if i saw your mate giving a kid a kicking, id probably jump in and have words with your mate regardless of what happened before the incident, its only what happened after that got picked up on and believe me, i know what im talking about if you get me the police arent getting lazy, they just need to rely on the decent members of public a little bit more at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra digsey Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 i personally think that if you see a crime being commited, any decent person would do something about it, not just turn a blind eye if i saw your mate giving a kid a kicking, id probably jump in and have words with your mate regardless of what happened before the incident, its only what happened after that got picked up on and believe me, i know what im talking about if you get me the police arent getting lazy, they just need to rely on the decent members of public a little bit more at the minute could this be a policeman? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I feel for your mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-one234 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 could this be a policeman? lol im saying nothing not a policeman YET though lol im a special constable, but hopefully move into regulars soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 if i catch you speeding in you 1000bhp single supra ill be on to you police man!! if u go 67 thats it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 i personally think that if you see a crime being commited, any decent person would do something about it, not just turn a blind eye if i saw your mate giving a kid a kicking, id probably jump in and have words with your mate regardless of what happened before the incident, its only what happened after that got picked up on and believe me, i know what im talking about if you get me the police arent getting lazy, they just need to rely on the decent members of public a little bit more at the minute Police getting lazy was just a title I understand its this lady who is trying the pass this through not the police but I couldnt think of a decent title at the time. Anyways ive grown up in a rough area and ive done things that I could never mention on an internet forum or to most people, but I know the "gangside" & the criminal side of how things work (it was being able to own a supra that change my life for the good, seriously), My point is 9 times out of 10 if a random person gets in someones way who is commiting a crime things are going to get very messy. Also their are two sides to a story like if you seen (my friend) an average looking 30 year old man hitting a 15/16 year old it means he has done something wrong. I dont know about yourself but if you dont live in a rough community you wont understand the way things work. Salford is full of teen gangs that carry knifes and the odd gun & most people know this, whereas if you come from the country side where all the teens go to school and live a normal healthy life you wouldnt expect them to get into criminal activity. Honestly you yourself could walk down a street and a kid could easily come upto you with a knife wanting you money or just wanting to get well known so he stabs you for rep, simple as that. Thats what lifes like round here although things are getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil-NA Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Police getting lazy was just a title I understand its this lady who is trying the pass this through not the police but I couldnt think of a decent title at the time. Anyways ive grown up in a rough area and ive done things that I could never mention on an internet forum or to most people, but I know the "gangside" & the criminal side of how things work (it was being able to own a supra that change my life for the good, seriously), My point is 9 times out of 10 if a random person gets in someones way who is commiting a crime things are going to get very messy. Also their are two sides to a story like if you seen (my friend) an average looking 30 year old man hitting a 15/16 year old it means he has done something wrong. I dont know about yourself but if you dont live in a rough community you wont understand the way things work. Salford is full of teen gangs that carry knifes and the odd gun & most people know this, whereas if you come from the country side where all the teens go to school and live a normal healthy life you wouldnt expect them to get into criminal activity. Honestly you yourself could walk down a street and a kid could easily come upto you with a knife wanting you money or just wanting to get well known so he stabs you for rep, simple as that. Thats what lifes like round here although things are getting better. Thats exactly what it was like when i lived in Little Hulton (couple of miles from you) the stuff i saw was shocking so i just stayed indoors and kept my head down for the 4 years i was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I like how America police things. Someone breaks into your house, you shoot them dead and you're praised as a hero. Over here, a burglar breaks into your house, hurts himself and you get in trouble and he gets a pay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra digsey Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I like how America police things. Someone breaks into your house, you shoot them dead and you're praised as a hero. Over here, a burglar breaks into your house, hurts himself and you get in trouble and he gets a pay out. CLAIMS DIRECT!! Did you fall over the carpet breaking in to someones house? Bad back from lifting to many TVs? Call now sorry that amused me. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Thats exactly what it was like when i lived in Little Hulton (couple of miles from you) the stuff i saw was shocking so i just stayed indoors and kept my head down for the 4 years i was there. I know many people from little hulton & walkden from years ago (always wanted to be salford wannabe's) and its the same problem there. Did you ever hear of a guy called Marcus lazareth from little hulton by any chance? One of his cars is a genuine Merc 190e cosworth EVOII (dont see many of them in LH lol) I like how America police things. Someone breaks into your house, you shoot them dead and you're praised as a hero. Over here, a burglar breaks into your house, hurts himself and you get in trouble and he gets a pay out. Tell me about it, if someones breaking into a house they will do it armed most likely so you have to protect yourself somehow dont you. Ive "heard" of some guy (heroin addict scum) who went missing around here about 5 years ago, he had broken into an old womans house (70 or 80 year old) robbed and beat her while she was in bed. From what I was told she woke up and he was already in her bedroom. Anyways that must have been very scary for her and if it had been my antie or gran (mine are dead anyway) I would want proper justice rather than him spend a year or two back at school (jail). Oh and to add to what you was saying Josh you used to be able to get around that law by dragging them upstairs afterwards but you couldnt kill em lol just "restrain them" not sure if you can still get away with this? P.S. sorry for no paragraphs I was typing to fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 It's ironic that this thread is up. Just rang the Police with regard to a suspected drunk driver. The impression I got was that they were just taking some details and were not actually going to send a car to investigate. I followed the guy for 4 miles and mot a Police car in sight. After two phone calls updating the position of the car I gave up following him as the girl on the other end of the phone sounded like she was filing her nails and chewing gum...!! I am glad I am out of the Police these days as it seems to have deteriorated over the last ten years. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Yet another gem to thank the Conservatives for, along with letting the European Parliament give us more interesting little rules and regulations, like quieter exhausts, quieter tyres, and soon to come silent car alarms, noise limits on car door closing Less police, more crime, and yes lets encourage the general public to have a go, and then we can prosecute them too, then we can have more vigilante groups, and then yes! private policing, the possibilities are endless, and the likely outcome, eventual anarchy. Me cynical nah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 It's ironic that this thread is up. Just rang the Police with regard to a suspected drunk driver. The impression I got was that they were just taking some details and were not actually going to send a car to investigate. I followed the guy for 4 miles and mot a Police car in sight. After two phone calls updating the position of the car I gave up following him as the girl on the other end of the phone sounded like she was filing her nails and chewing gum...!! I am glad I am out of the Police these days as it seems to have deteriorated over the last ten years. H. Unfortunately thats the impression i get whenever i feel a need to report something, felt like that for a few years now, they just give the impression that they are just going through the motions, even had the same feedback from friends in the force. With the government cuts its going to dishearten all but the most committed, i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 I dont know if its relevant Havard but the Greater manchester police had to drop 3000 employees less than a year ago so maybe "they have better things to do". I have a thing for drink drivers I bet that guy you was following got away with it too:rolleyes: Personally I think the drinking limit is slightly too low, I mean I dont drink myself but when Ive had two pints at Xmas Ive never felt drunk or tippsy and im a short arse (still never drove over the limit though as driving means alot to me so I wanna keep my licence). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Unfortunately thats the impression i get whenever i feel a need to report something, felt like that for a few years now, they just give the impression that they are just going through the motions, even had the same feedback from friends in the force. With the government cuts its going to dishearten all but the most committed, i think. Absolute waste of time even calling dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I dont know if its relevant Havard but the Greater manchester police had to drop 3000 employees less than a year ago so maybe "they have better things to do". I have a thing for drink drivers I bet that guy you was following got away with it too:rolleyes: Even my 8 year old reckoned he was pi$$ed. I caught up with him pretty quickly as he was doing 20 in a 30 limit. He turned right at a mini roundabout and almost came to a halt as I nearly ran in the back of him. I backed off and watched him up the hill, he crossed the white lines twice and missed the kerb by an inch. It was at thios point I rang the fuzz. It's worrying to think that if there was an emergency and you were vulnerable. No one would come? Absolute waste of time even calling dude. I have learned my lesson. Won't be bothering again. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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