supramkivcork Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Posted on a local forum, amazing really. (excuse poor thread title spelling please ) This was the road after the earthquake 6 days later......... If only we were this good, our roads are still gimped from frost that happened over two years ago. anyways heres the article: Due to the extensive damage in Japan caused by the massive earthquake and resultant tsunami on March 11, many have questioned if the island nation can recover in a year, much less a few months. If the swiftness with which the Japanese can repair roads is any indication, we wouldn't bet against the country cleaning up this catastrophe in short order. As a result of the quake, a 150-meter section of the Great Kanto Highway in Naka was absolutely obliterated, with massive chasms running right through the middle of the road. Work crews at the NEXCO road repair company sprang into action on March 17, working at a fevered pitch to help get their country on the road to recovery, literally. Amazingly, after only six days of labor, the road is silky smooth and ready for travel. Look at the the before and after photos above to see just how amazing this feat is. Given the fact that road crews in the U.S. can spend three or more months repairing a single lane of concrete, only to leave the orange barrels on the road for another two weeks, we're blown away by this feat of engineering. Simply amazing. source: Click For Source Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Repost. I posted this last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supramkivcork Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Those pictures are not 6 days apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Those pictures are not 6 days apart According to the media the pictures aren't no, but the fix was in place after 6 days. I think there was 12 days between the actual pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Repost. I posted this last night. You did, and it got canned because certain members were completely out of order in your thread. Please try and keep this one civil people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You did, and it got canned because certain members were completely out of order in your thread. How rude of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 According to the media the pictures aren't no, but the fix was in place after 6 days. I think there was 12 days between the actual pictures. There not 12 days apart either you can tell just by looking at the pics Try a couple of years apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 There not 12 days apart either you can tell just by looking at the pics Try a couple of years apart You must be looking at different pictures from me, you do realise they are a fair distance apart? I can't see why they would lie. Not sure if you trust the guardian but.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/24/japan-disaster-reconstruction-road-recovery You can pick your newspaper, I'm pretty sure they all covered the same story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You must be looking at different pictures from me, you do realise they are a fair distance apart? I can't see why they would lie. It's the internet, everyone lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It's the internet, everyone lies It's a conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 There not 12 days apart either you can tell just by looking at the pics Try a couple of years apart IMHO, you can't tell. Was it the same photographer, camera, lenses, light conditions, focul length, white balance, aperture, shutter speed and iso? Any one difference here will contribute to a different look. Also if any post production was applied, it may be...err...different. On the other hand it may be 12 years apart but I don't think so. Also the season looks the same...ie no leaves on trees on LHS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It's the internet, everyone lies Is that a lie though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You must be looking at different pictures from me, you do realise they are a fair distance apart? I can't see why they would lie. Not sure if you trust the guardian but.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/24/japan-disaster-reconstruction-road-recovery You can pick your newspaper, I'm pretty sure they all covered the same story. IMHO, you can't tell. Was it the same photographer, camera, lenses, light conditions, focul length, white balance, aperture, shutter speed and iso? Any one difference here will contribute to a different look. Also if any post production was applied, it may be...err...different. On the other hand it may be 12 years apart but I don't think so. Also the season looks the same...ie no leaves on trees on LHS Dont need to see about the light, distance, angle, camera etc look at the trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 There not 12 days apart either you can tell just by looking at the pics Try a couple of years apart You came to that conclusion by? Was their even an earthquake in Japan a couple of years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 You came to that conclusion by? Was their even an earthquake in Japan a couple of years ago? Quite a lot actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Quite a lot actually Oops posted too early, I see you replied back Question is to that extent on that road? By the way not much difference in the photo's, 2 different camera's have been used here, so different lenses, ISO, colour balance etc etc so it is not 100% clear, plus they have been taking different times of the day which would effect photo & which camera was used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Oops posted too early, I see you replied back Question is to that extent on that road? By the way not much difference in the photo's, 2 different camera's have been used here, so different lenses, ISO, colour balance etc etc so it is not 100% clear, plus they have been taking different times of the day which would effect photo & which camera was used. Look at the pics i put up with red circles lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I call fake, are there any civil engineers who can say if this is possible in that timescale?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Dont need to see about the light, distance, angle, camera etc look at the trees http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=129069&d=1301096995 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=129070&d=1301096995 Ahh, so you didn't notice the difference in distance then. The bits you have circled aren't the same trees bud. That is the reason you think they are years apart, you can tell far easier from the opposite side of the road. I've attached the pictures that actually show the trees to compare, the mass that you have circled is mostly on the foreground of the picture, if you look closely you can see there is a large gap between the 2 batches of growth. IMO they are very capable of doing that sort of work, you will find it was worked on for 24 hours with non-UK workers which means they got the finger out and threw out the "risk assesment" red tape crap that the road workers here all have to go through. 15 mins it takes to cover up a pothole in Sweeden, seems to take around 3 days here... including the risk assessment. Just because we couldn't do it doesn't mean it can't be done elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 While I'm sure it is *possible*, I tend not to believe anything like this (i.e. unverified) from internet sources unless it was posted with the Exif data from the camera(s). edit: for example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 While I'm sure it is *possible*, I tend not to believe anything like this (i.e. unverified) from internet sources unless it was posted with the Exif data from the camera(s). Was it an internet source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 While I'm sure it is *possible*, I tend not to believe anything like this (i.e. unverified) from internet sources unless it was posted with the Exif data from the camera(s). edit: for example: I can't see flickr. But that's hardly the guardian or the sun is it? There are MILLIONS of spoof pictures and spoof articles, a few of which get linked on here and we all have a good giggle. There is no evidence to suggest foul play with these pictures whatsoever, the foilage all looks the same and in the same condition/age etc in both pictures (with the exception of some of the shruberry being cleared, most likely to make room). There is nothing "impossible" about what has been done either. The resources the Japanese have are FAR greater than anything we could even begin to muster. I saw the article in the Sun on Tuesday or Wednesday I think. I have no idea who the reporter was, as I didn't take note, so I can't comment there but the pictures were exactly the same and the story was the same. The article is in the guardian also though, article written by Justin McCurry who is reporting out of Tokyo for the moment. Both newspapers use photos taken by "AP" and both photos are taken by "AP". Not sure how to trace a photographer though, will most likely be freelance. The Guardian article was a day later, well online at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Was it an internet source? Depends how you define it, I suppose. I'm merely referring to the fact that we've been hyperlinked to it on this internet forum I can't see flickr. But that's hardly the guardian or the sun is it? There are MILLIONS of spoof pictures and spoof articles, a few of which get linked on here and we all have a good giggle. There is no evidence to suggest foul play with these pictures whatsoever, the foilage all looks the same and in the same condition/age etc in both pictures (with the exception of some of the shruberry being cleared, most likely to make room). There is nothing "impossible" about what has been done either. The resources the Japanese have are FAR greater than anything we could even begin to muster. I saw the article in the Sun on Tuesday or Wednesday I think. I have no idea who the reporter was, as I didn't take note, so I can't comment there but the pictures were exactly the same and the story was the same. The article is in the guardian also though, article written by Justin McCurry who is reporting out of Tokyo for the moment. Both newspapers use photos taken by "AP" and both photos are taken by "AP". Not sure how to trace a photographer though, will most likely be freelance. The Guardian article was a day later, well online at least. I understand your point totally.. just I'm very cynical, and tend to question almost everything I see or hear that is released via media channels. I concede that this is indeed possible, especially if the road in question is of strategic importance for infrastructure (for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Not ganging up here Al, but in the final analysis I agree with Scott regarding the distance being different etc...and those trees are therefor different. However I don't actually know, it's just my opinion. Although Sdistc has a point regarding the origin and the reliability of the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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