supra steveo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 firstly what is the best way to get the brake lines off the car ( car side ) also how do i get the rear shims off with out taking the whole handbrake and crap off ? when bleed the brakes what is the best order to do them in ? this is me on a learning curve by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 http://mkiv.com/techarticles/trd_ss_brake_lines/rear/index3.html just found this but i am having problems undoing the 10 union bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 You need a brake pipe spanner really, for safety. You dont want to round them off. I think its also often referred to as a flare nut spanner. Halfords do a nice 'Pro' one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Always bleed the brakes in order of the furthest away from the MC, so thats the passenger side rear, then the second closest, third closest etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Get some penatrating lube like plusgas on the flare nut threads and where the pipe goes down through the nut and take it steady when undoing the nut.Try not to let your reservoir run dry, if you get air in the master cylinder it can be a bitch to bleed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Get some penatrating lube like vaseline I like the way you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarrter21 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I recently replaced my rear lines with braided ones. This was over 4meters of lines. The rear drivers side is the longest hose, ive allways bled the passenger rear first aswell but is this correct as the drivers side is actually longer!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 just been to halfords and i couldnt find the set on the shelf then i had some little spotty skateboard geek telling me he, and the manager, had not heard of the tools, was a little P'ed off, but its now a job for tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarrter21 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I think its these that are needed http://www.google.co.uk/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en-GB&gl=uk&client=safari&q=crows%20foot%20wrench#i=13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_217518_langId_-1_categoryId_165469 found it on the site so might go back tomorrow and throw it in his face then give him a lecture on knowing his tools if he works in a tool shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) well guys all the new brake lines are sorted everything was cool, bled the 2 rear brakes and they seemed to bleed easy enough, got to the doing the fronts and everything was great until i got to the last caliper bolt i think i may have cross threaded one of the bolts ive got it off and ive had to leave it for the night as i am just knocking the caliper and the plastic coat is coming off will see how things look in the morning dont supose anyone knows if it is possible to take a thread off the nackered half of the old caliper thats got the siezed pad pins in and use those ? its always the last sodding bolt Edited March 11, 2011 by supra steveo (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 dont supose anyone knows if it is possible to take a thread off the nackered half of the old caliper oh yes you can coz ive just took it out happy days job for tomorrow now i am hungery and tired and need a vodka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 oh yes you can coz ive just took it out happy days job for tomorrow now i am hungery and tired and need a vodka You always do work at mad times penny. Suprised ya not out! Cant wait for my week off, may have a surprise instore on the supra front too mate Oh and ya need to help me with my brakes since ya learning curve was on mine lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 no that wasnt a learning curve mate that was just abusing your car lol (only joking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 You mean the thread insert that is in the caliper lugs to hold the caliper to the hub upright? Or a thread in one of the caliper halves where the other half bolts on? Both are metric fine, the caliper halves use 6mm x 1.00 thread, which is very unusual, and to find decent bolts of the right length is a nightmare, but one which i have overcome I also have the correct taps to attempt a resurrection of a damaged thread, plus I have the correct Helicoil kit to repair a dead thread. If it's the thread inserts you may be able to use one from another caliper, can't say I have ever tried. I have the taps to clean up a damaged thread, but it would mean you sending the caliper back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 You mean the thread insert that is in the caliper lugs to hold the caliper to the hub upright? thems the ones buddy, i am about to go fit the last caliper to the car then bleed the fronts calipers , massive thanks too you aswell Chris for putting up with my random PMs of mad questions lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Has no one on the base got a metric fine tap to chase the tread out with? If not you could try removing an insert from the old caliper half and see if it comes out OK before attacking the rebuilt one. I'd use a new or good bolt rather than the old one if the bolt thread looks less than perfect. Re threading a rolled thread HT bolt with a die is bad practice as it weakens the bolt significantly. I don't have a UK front caliper here to have a mess with, but I am 60% sure the thread "bobbins" will come out and swap over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 thats what ive done chris i bought a right rear half from Justice because the pad pins are still stuck in the holes so i ditched my half and used the half from Justice , so ive got a buckshee rear right half now minus one of the inserts for the mounting bolt and the bolt looks fine just the thread on the insert looked badly crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you want to send me the insert and caliper half I can try and save it for you so you have a spare half to sell, or keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 i have a spare half that is having nothing done with it and 2 near brand new UK pistons along with a few uk spec used with abit of damaged chrome on, do you want them ? ive got everything done now and it feels like it takes alot for the car to brake it feels like i only get a decent bite when the brake is most of the way down i.e nearly fully depressed , what have i done wrong when bleeding the brakes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 cancel my last ,...... working great now can really feel the difference to it also feels like the car is driving better too , might be just where my old J spec brake were stuck on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 i have a spare half that is having nothing done with it and 2 near brand new UK pistons along with a few uk spec used with abit of damaged chrome on, do you want them ? ive got everything done now and it feels like it takes alot for the car to brake it feels like i only get a decent bite when the brake is most of the way down i.e nearly fully depressed , what have i done wrong when bleeding the brakes ? They may be useful so if it's no great trouble may I take you up on this please? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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