Homer Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 When changing a stock clutch (for another stock one) which other parts are required from Mr T? The clutch is now slipping quite badly so will replace the flywheel as that's probably b*ggered too. - Should the release bearing be renewed? - How about the various washers and bits around the bearing, are they re-usable? - Flywheel bolts? anything else? PS: It's a w58, not 6spd. The parts needed seem different to what I remember, so want to check with you guys first Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Definately replace the release bearing, the other bits can be reused, remember to loctite the flywheel bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 Cheers Si. New flywheel bolts or can they be reused? I seem to recall they need to be replaced with new... got a feeling they aren't cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Cheers Si. New flywheel bolts or can they be reused? I seem to recall they need to be replaced with new... got a feeling they aren't cheap! my research on this forum suggested that a new flywheel bolt would be a must - IIRC it was 30 from toyota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Flywheel bolts were around £8 each IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 Thanks Imi, is that £30 for all 8? That's not bad then, I have visions of them being £10 a peice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 ill be honest ,i have just put yet another clutch in mine and forgot to order new flywheel bolts , so inmy rush to get the car done on time i just reused the ones i took out. im notto worried though , they looked in good nick so i just torqued them up nice and tight. im sure they wont come loose . and even if they do, i think id notice before its to late. i re used the pressure plate bolts to.... what a rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry_10 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 flywheel bolts for w58 came in at about £55 for all 8 from toyota near me and they already come with a loctite compound on them, its the bolts for the 6 speed flywheel that are £10-£11 a piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 flywheel bolts for w58 came in at about £55 for all 8 from toyota near me and they already come with a loctite compound on them, its the bolts for the 6 speed flywheel that are £10-£11 a piece that's it, 60 for the set, not 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seba Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I need to do this job too. It's a N/A manual 5spd is this allways w58? The clutch is slipping but how do i know if the flywheel needs replacing too? Sorry for highjacking thread Homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 You should really replace the clips that hold the release bearing in the presure Plate to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 How about the flywheel itself? I understand these cars have dual mass flywheels, should they not be changed as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seba Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Hey guys i really need to know what parts i have to change when changing a clutch... Does flywheel need replacing too or is it not necesary? It's a 95' N/A 5sp i assume this is w58? And if anyone has these parts let me know. It's for a mate back here and he is getting on my nerves ! Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 On a TT change the plate, cover and release bearing, and the bearing in the back of the crank (spigot bearing), for which you will need a special puller, or hours of fun with grease and mandrels. I wouldn't bother changing the flywheel bolts unless it's a big HP engine, or used for drag starts. Re use all the clips, unless damaged they should be fine. Consider re sealing the slave cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 Good to know Chris Mines an NA so definetly not big HP! Any thoughts on whether the pressure plate should be replaced? It's been slipping for a little while so am using a good 2nd hand flywheel and rebuilt organic clutch. It's only cost about £70 but obviously want it not to slip afterwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 You should renew the pressure plate (cover) and driven plate. If it's been slipping the spring in the cover may well have lost temper with the heat. I hate rebuilt clutches as they often machine the pressure plat face to true them up and that reduces the clamping force and alters the geo so they often don't release fully, even with the pedal mashed into the floor. Some are OK, but they can give hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 Understand what you're saying Chris, I had a reground plate on my last car and the bite point was always low, though it did last 36k miles (BPU then single turbo) It's only the clutch plate itself thats rebuilt (Keron is supplying), I was hoping to get away using the current pressure plate, but not sure if that's wise from what you've said. I've been driving it very steady and it's only slipped a dozen times for only a second or so, still worth swapping just in case? It's only to pootle around on until I finally decide which uprated one to go for (GTE engine, probably 'Wez' spec) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 you gonna do a pic heavy how to thread matey PMed you too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 If you want to risk doing it twice, but potentially saving money, re use it. If you want 100% certainty it won't have to come apart again fit a new clutch assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 Forgot to say thanks for the last post Chris! Finally getting around to doing this... On a TT change the plate, cover and release bearing, and the bearing in the back of the crank (spigot bearing), for which you will need a special puller, or hours of fun with grease and mandrels. Chris/anyone, is there an off the shelf tool for removing the spigot bearing (or anything DIY you could recommend)? It's only on an NA, but Toyota list the spigot bearing as a non-reusable part. The release bearing is listed as reusable. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 found a quote from the man himself......... "Easy way: With a slide hammer and a split collet bush removing tool. Trickier but another possible way: Close fitting round steel bar, pack spigot bearing with grease (NO air voids)insert bar into the end of the bearing, belt bar with big hammer, the grease hydraulics out the bearing, or repeat until successful or you give up and buy the right tool. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Thanks Scott, appreciated Now the hunt is on to find a "split collet bush removal tool"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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