The Raven Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 it would appear that way, some are calling it a holy war, its as if the middle east will implode! what ever happens, this is going to get a lot worse! we can all agree on that Well. The people of the middle east want the right to pick who runs their country and are going about removing the offenders, however this one isnt going without a fight. I guess the UN would have to step in if he continues to use the army to murder thousands of his own people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 There's a limit, there is always a breaking point. Granted we generally do it all politely and through protests, but if the industry suffers the people will suffer. IMO this will bring a HUGE increase of honest hard working men and women losing their jobs and pushing the government into action... whether the people are silent or not. I honestly believe the UK general public will only take so many pokes with a stick, if something did happen in this nation.... it would be BIG. It's like the quiet ones in school, it's usually best not to piss them off as when they lose the plot they SERIOUSLY lose the plot. Know what you mean Scott, but the protests at first will be large & then just scale down. The government will say, in order to assist we will be reducing the VAT to 17.5% (because they will take us back to 20%) so instead of taking 95p from each litre you fill up we will take 80p for each litre you fill up! That will keep it under £2 and just about keep the economy going, as a country we just too damn soft. We have in all honesty become a lazy nation, well majority have & we are too comfortable with just letting it go, rather than to stand up to it. Yes the labour party put us in a lot of debt but surely someone should have worked that out ages ago and stopped it! Why we the ones bailing everyone out again, maybe the banks should bail us out this time! Sensationalism, if it went to £2 a litre people would not be able to get to work ther country would grinfd to halt and there would be civil unrest (which may be a good idea), the yanks are whinging on the tri chevy forum that they are paying $3.30 a gallon, rip off britain again, its not the petrol companies its the fu****g government, lost the revenue from cigs so getting it wherever they can to pay for the war !!!!!!! The war that the public never wanted? Include all the taxes we pay, all of them and the amount of tax on pay, you would think the government are netting billions each year. It is like all the money which this country has earned has just gone into a black hole. In other words. SHIT THEY GOT OIL! INVADE! That wouldn't surprise me the slightest bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 , lost the revenue from cigs so getting it wherever they can to pay for the war !!!!!!! Morpheus will be your best friend dude As stated the price will never come down and firms are being crippled by fuel costs. The price per barrel goes up..... we pay for it Trouble in the middle east ........ we pay for it. The price per barrel goes down to half of its highest........... it goes up another 1p per ltr Rob shop UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I'll wait and see but wont be supprised if it carries on and gets really silly before anything happens, the government are planning on scrapping the 1p rise !! wow that'll really make everyone happy !! Heres how your fuel cost was split not so long ago Price for unleaded was 126.9 and diesel was 131.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Big blow to the petrolheads out there And to the car industry in general... I hate feeling guilty everytime my right foot gets a bit naughty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Some of the stuff in this series of youtube clips makes interesting viewing, and has pertinent points about growth and it's effects and the inevitability of zero/negative growth at some point in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Glass is half full for me, hopefully i will be able to pick up a nice TT6 cheap, although i wont be able to affard to run it either lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Big blow to the petrolheads out there And to the car industry in general... I hate feeling guilty everytime my right foot gets a bit naughty. I don't. I work hard and a bit of fun is allowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Sometimes I drive just for the hell of it ... the man ain't never gonna get me down !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Just wait till they lower the national speed limit, then we'll have something to moan about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 3pence a litre was £20k a year for a small haulage firm that was on the radio so they have had to lay someone off each time the fuel goes up. The uk would come to stand still as people just wont be able to afford heating gas or fuel or just about anything. Imagine the most of the countries lorry drivers doing another fuel strike over the uk. It's against the law yes, after it happened last time. But how many companies will they be able to arrest and lock up? As said the country will come to a stand still and things would be very tense. Fuel prices affect almost everyone and everything. Unless you live in the woods miles away from anything and anyone and can live by eating grass you will soon feel that pinch get tighter. The uk is like a loyal dog who cares for its owners (we pay taxes) but gets beaten daily, soon it will bite back. And the oil supplies are not getting bigger, especially when people waste money on french cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 It isn't just "rip off Britain". The UK is having it no harder (and in some cases easier) than other nations in Europe. This list shown on the link (which BTW, and as far as Greece is concerned, is way too low) shows that the UK is not on its own in paying high prices for fuel. And, in the case of Greece especially, the wage levels are far lower than the UK and yet the cost of living is, in the main, just as high if not higher. http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/Motoring-advice/Petrol-Prices.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Some of the stuff in this series of youtube clips makes interesting viewing, and has pertinent points about growth and it's effects and the inevitability of zero/negative growth at some point in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biguns Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Well I'm gonna start selling locking fuel caps and syphoning kits, bound to make a few quid ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsar Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 3pence a litre was £20k a year for a small haulage firm that was on the radio so they have had to lay someone off each time the fuel goes up. The uk would come to stand still as people just wont be able to afford heating gas or fuel or just about anything. Imagine the most of the countries lorry drivers doing another fuel strike over the uk. It's against the law yes, after it happened last time. But how many companies will they be able to arrest and lock up? As said the country will come to a stand still and things would be very tense. This country is only stocked to run for 2 weeks.. Transport company's wouldn't need to go on strike but to just not send their lorry's out on the road for a week .This country would start to go downhill very quickly. The only thing that couldn't be stopped is the foreign trucks making their deliveries as it's against the law to block roads in this country. There is a way around the high pump prices and thats to have a fuel card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 This country is only stocked to run for 2 weeks.. Transport company's wouldn't need to go on strike but to just not send their lorry's out on the road for a week .This country would start to go downhill very quickly. The only thing that couldn't be stopped is the foreign trucks making their deliveries as it's against the law to block roads in this country. There is a way around the high pump prices and thats to have a fuel card I'm lucky to have all my fuel paid for aswel including unlimited private use but it's still sickening when each week it creeps up. I filled up again this morning and it has risen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Start to go downhill very quickly Samsar? You must be new to this country; welcome aboard HMS Titanic. Enjoy your trip. What was that? Oh don't worry, it's only a fog patch up ahead. This ship hasn't sunk once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsar Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Start to go downhill very quickly Samsar? Very true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronttuk Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Im sure i read somewhere we produce enough oil in the north sea for our own use but as we joined OPEC we need to export some and import to replace what we export, if this is really the case why dont we leave OPEC and just support ourselves or is that just to easy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Im sure i read somewhere we produce enough oil in the north sea for our own use but as we joined OPEC we need to export some and import to replace what we export, if this is really the case why dont we leave OPEC and just support ourselves or is that just to easy?? We have been exporting oil for years. I think i covered this in school. I remember something about our oil being of better quality and remember thinking oh that's nice. So we buy and the use the crap stuff then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasoup Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Im sure i read somewhere we produce enough oil in the north sea for our own use but as we joined OPEC we need to export some and import to replace what we export, if this is really the case why dont we leave OPEC and just support ourselves or is that just to easy?? Pretty sure I hears something a out that but I heard that the oil we export is of a much higher quality to the oil we import thus making a profit for exporting our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Either way, we'll see $150-200 per barrel by year end. We haven't seen anything yet. Not sure how it will equate to pump cost as it's always different. The prices are manipulated according to the stage we're at in the agenda, (which doesn't exist, like the iceberg), so they could hold pump gas down while commodities keep rising, just to maintain the illusion of economic stability and some sort of transport system. Caviar still needs to be shipped, afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 OK can anyone tell me what % of oil comes from Libya ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 OK can anyone tell me what % of oil comes from Libya ?????? Enough to cause a big price hike. Just found this from 2006 but page 4-5 mentions 100 billion barrels potential. http://www.unitedworld-usa.com/pdf/libya.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I keep seeing 2% of global production is from Libya but how factual that is i've no idea. Our problem isnt the cost per barrel or what certain countries produce its the crazy amount of tax we pay, if tax were to drop on fuel then the country would be screwed unless it put the tax elsewhere ! On 1 litre of unleaded at 126.9p there is over 70p of duty and vat !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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