welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Hey!! =] i mentioned not so long ago about the na-NA-t, Found a few kits, as in whifbitz, and XS-power, Quite a big difference in Price, ( i know you get what u pay for) But....has any body been or bought anything from xs power, + i want to just get my car about 400bhp. from the NA. XS power is located in wales, so thats good for me , cheeers daz =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 im sure you would of got your answer when you asked last time xs power is not good:tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 lol sorry =[, its just i dont have 5-6k for the whifbitz conversion =[, otherwise i would deffo! boostwerx.com looks tidy also =p?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 my xs power track car has been constantly thrashed for a few years now and apart from the poor quality oil lines theye have ben no problems , it all depends what xs power you buy, there is the us spec stuff made by a guy called by make or the chinese spec stuff that is a poorer quality steel and un braced , this is the stuff that gave the xs a bad name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 im about the XS power in the UK, its up in wales, its like 1200 quid, but then u need to get intercooler pipe work, oil feed urself,hmmmm...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 You get what you pay for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 These aren't cheap cars to run or modify, one way or the other you'll end up spending alot of money turbocharging it. At least with the Whifbitz kit you know you're buying quality. What price can you put on peace of mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 i know supras aint cheap to run , mines thirsty lol! and to modify i know its costly, some parts you can get cheap though, but the main parts, i dont mind it being costly, if you get what i mean?? i know some people (met on supra runs) that have paid like 2-3k for the conversion, NA----NA-T!... But im not sure which turbo kits, turbos, coolers etc etc, they got or were they had it fitted, wish i did lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I've heard a few stories of cracked manifolds. It you want to go NA-T and don't want to spend £5-6k, don't go single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 lol buy a strong manifold =] sooorted ? =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 There isn't going to be any convincing you. You have already resigned yourself to writing off Pauls kit so just go for it and be done with it. Buy the XS power kit, fit it all and let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 lol, hang a minute !, i aint written pauls off , because his kit is LUSH!!, tbh. I just trying to find a cheaper method but as i said before.. =[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 lol, hang a minute !, i aint written pauls off , because his kit is LUSH!!, tbh. I just trying to find a cheaper method but as i said before.. =[ Buy cheap, buy twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 yeh thats true matey =[! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 £8K+ to do a proper NA-T conversion and have a car you will find difficult to sell on or sell the NA and buy a TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Buy cheap, buy twice/thrice/whatever the 4 one is that rhymes with ice EXACTLY In the long run it probably won't be any cheaper, and I'd always be worried about it breaking down or going pop. Plus, you're cheap turbo kit may take the engine with it when it does (which is a very real possibility) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 and i definatley dont want that to happen =[!!! me keep looking ,and ill look at some TT, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 and i definatley dont want that to happen =[!!! me keep looking ,and ill look at some TT, You could sell the NA then buy a TT and BPU it. Voilà, 400bhp (or so)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Cat amongst the pigeons. In the end of the day, some people had problems with xs in the past so everyone jumped on the band wagon. As craig has already said the track car is driven hard all the time an no problems have occurred with this phantom cracking manifold. 8k to do a proper n/a-t conversion is quite funny as well. Craigs car has cost him under less than half of that, the car does not miss a beat, and running up around 400 bhp. So does this sound like their parts are crap, or more than likely one person having a problem and then it growing into a Chinese whisper to the point where you get warned to stay clear of it. If you are on a tight budget then the kit will do the job that it is need to do. Just use some different oil lines as they are the only let down to the kit tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 hmmm, ill wait a year then invest mayb in a TT or buy one with a single? like 500bhp :O... ha, need to get a little run around aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Cat amongst the pigeons. In the end of the day, some people had problems with xs in the past so everyone jumped on the band wagon. As craig has already said the track car is driven hard all the time an no problems have occurred with this phantom cracking manifold. 8k to do a proper n/a-t conversion is quite funny as well. Craigs car has cost him under less than half of that, the car does not miss a beat, and running up around 400 bhp. So does this sound like their parts are crap, or more than likely one person having a problem and then it growing into a Chinese whisper to the point where you get warned to stay clear of it. If you are on a tight budget then the kit will do the job that it is need to do. Just use some different oil lines as they are the only let down to the kit tbh. what he said . ive not seen a braced xs manifold crack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve spedd Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 what he said . ive not seen a braced xs manifold crack +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve spedd Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Felt I should add a little more. They are cheap but some bits might be worth replacing. Have a look at how many single GTE's run xs power manifolds. The kit is better then people give it credit for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I would personally never by a car with an XS Power turbo as I would always be thinking 'If they went cheap with a turbo, what else was done on the cheap' Anyway, it sounds like you don't really have the available funds to go single IMO as you will always have to have a large buffer fund for the 'just incase something get's broken' scenario, plus don't forget that it's not just the turbo kit, there's fuelling, ECU, mapping, brakes, etc, etc, the turbo kit is just the down payment. I'd just make sure I had a nice and tidy N/A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 ive not seen a braced xs manifold crack You must be talking about the NA-T ones only then as the braced TT XS power manifolds crack all the time. What was the final installation cost of your setup, including the ECU, mapping and all the odds and ends (not just the kit)? It seems to have worked well so far (given, it's still early days), but it should give a guideline as to what's needed in terms of costs and DIY skill level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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