tbourner Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 My toilet randomly stopped flushing today, it's been getting a bit worse for a couple of days then this morning stopped completely. Get a little trickle but won't flush. From my research over the last 10 minutes, I need a new flap valve in the syphon? Looks like I have a pretty standard system with an inverted U bend thingy, big chamber with the rod sticking out the top, little hook thing and a handle out the front of the cistern. Is it better and easier to just buy a new syphon? They seem to only be about £5, and if I have to take it out to replace the flap I might as well replace the whole thing? So what do I need to measure to make sure I buy the right one? Example. There are 8" and 9" and 9.5"...... what does that relate to? Do I need to get the right size pipes out the bottom and stuff as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamaSupra Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Yeah just replace the whole syphon mate, it's pretty easy and quickish to do. Will work fine once that's replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamaSupra Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Take it out and take it with you to shop and they'll show you which one you need if your worried about getting wrong one. Go to a PTS, Plumb Centre or place similar is your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 In the meantime, a full bucket of water tipped into the toilet will act as a makeshift flush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 b;3051565']In the meantime' date=' a full bucket of water tipped into the toilet will act as a makeshift flush [/quote'] Good idea, those 3 day old turds are building up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Good idea, those 3 day old turds are building up. Quite ironic really, because I only take a dump every three days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Just be careful how vigorous you are when you throw the bucket of water. Its better to use 3 bucket fulls gently than one bucket thrown enthusiastically and turning you into the Effluant Man. Lucy's bog has had this problem for a few weeks. Its like kickstarting a 2-stroke - you need to waggle the lever a few times first until you feel the compression, then prod it quickly and it usually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Quite ironic really, because I only take a dump every three days. I had a dodgy kebab at the weekend though. Better not empty the bucket from too high in case of splashback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Just dig a hole outside and go for some french living for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 There's nothing wrong with the bidet, is there?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supe Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Probably a bit late, but if you're in a hurry and want one today, Screwfix have them for £5 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 They're not necessarily a standard fitting. Stick a picture of it up and i'll see if I can identify it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgeer Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Just be careful how vigorous you are when you throw the bucket of water. Its better to use 3 bucket fulls gently than one bucket thrown enthusiastically and turning you into the Effluant Man. That's the best statement i've read today. Sounds like you speak from experience animal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamaSupra Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Just be careful how vigorous you are when you throw the bucket of water. Its better to use 3 bucket fulls gently than one bucket thrown enthusiastically and turning you into the Effluant Man. That's the best statement i've read today. Sounds like you speak from experience animal He makes a good point, you don't want to be eating the nuts in your sh!t for breakfast now do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Lol, almost spoken from experience. Luckily I'm a quick learner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 They're not necessarily a standard fitting. Stick a picture of it up and i'll see if I can identify it for you Here are some nice pics of it, doesn't look like the type I can unscrew from the bottom of the cistern and lift out - but looks like I can slide the main part up and leave the downpipe in there? Like it's in 2 or 3 parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Quite ironic really, because I only take a dump every three days. You are so full of shit...!! Quite ironic really as I probably take a dump 3 times a day..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeny Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Here are some nice pics of it, doesn't look like the type I can unscrew from the bottom of the cistern and lift out - but looks like I can slide the main part up and leave the downpipe in there? Like it's in 2 or 3 parts? You're lucky, you've a "turbo" syphon unscrew the blue nut, take the c-link out of the handle and lift out. No need to remove the cistern from the pan. You'll find the circular part to have a plastic "diaphragm" in the bottom, this will be split or partly missing, take it to the plumbers merchants, replace and re-assemble! Easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Looks like a cylindrical/round 'Metro' Syphon to me. (from:http://toiletparts.co.uk/toilet_syphons_26.html#) have a shop around though IIRC it should have "METRO" stamped in the blue plastic. They come in various heights etc, though that should not matter as you should just be able to unscrew the chamber and leave the down pipe in place. If you do need the height, this is where you measure it: (the bottom measurement will be the bottom (internal) of the WC cistern) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Quite ironic really, because I only take a dump every three days. Good god, do you have to stand up to get it all out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamaSupra Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Good god, do you have to stand up to get it all out? I'm picturing one of those sausage making machines where the sausages all come out joined together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 You're lucky, you've a "turbo" syphon unscrew the blue nut, take the c-link out of the handle and lift out. No need to remove the cistern from the pan. You'll find the circular part to have a plastic "diaphragm" in the bottom, this will be split or partly missing, take it to the plumbers merchants, replace and re-assemble! Easy! It's not a turbo syphon, and the diaphragm won't work as the mounting hole is offset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I'm picturing one of those sausage making machines where the sausages all come out joined together http://i.ehow.co.uk/images/a04/ej/so/playdoh-800X800.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamaSupra Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 http://i.ehow.co.uk/images/a04/ej/so/playdoh-800X800.jpg LOL Ooooo Play Doh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 Looks like a cylindrical/round 'Metro' Syphon to me. IIRC it should have "METRO" stamped in the blue plastic. They come in various heights etc, though that should not matter as you should just be able to unscrew the chamber and leave the down pipe in place. If you do need the height, this is where you measure it: Thanks! It does have 'Metro' on it as well, just needed a wipe to see it. Looks to be about 220mm, but I'm having trouble unscrewing the blue nut, might have to take the ball out to make room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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