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Apocalypse Now - What is the deal?


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I've been working my way through the IMDB top 100 list and I am strugling to see how on earth this movie made it in there.

 

It is one of the slowest and most boring movies I have ever watched. The "Captain" played by Martin Sheen has to be one of the most wooden characters I have ever seen. The dialogue is absolutely shocking throughout the movie, huge pauses at times IMO just making the scene less and less plausible.

 

Am I watching this movie in the wrong era or something? I really have given all I can trying to like it (as it is seen as a classic).

 

Movies like The Sting show their age nowadays but they also show the potential they had at the time they were released (it was an original idea/plot at the time as far as I know). I can see no originality in the plot, or any actual hook in the story of Apocalypse now at all.

 

Over 2 hrs I'm not getting back :(

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Typical USA trying to glorify a war they lost! Do you have the rest of the 100 IMDB films maybe we can save you wasting another 2 hours or so! "I love the smell of napalm in the morning" ;)

 

I sure do lol. Scratch that though, the movie is almost 4 hours long :blink:

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Since when is it glorifying war? I think it is brilliant at demonstrating the juxtaposition and craziness of war (in this case, Vietnam/American war) - surfing during an airstrike, Playmates abandoned in the middle of the jungle, a pointless mission into the heart of enemy territory. It fits nicely into a playlist of Full Metal Jacket, Platoon, The Quiet American, Tigerland.. and to some extent, The Watchmen; their point is the whole pointlessness of it all.

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Post up the list then and we can try and help you stop wasting your life! ;)

 

It won't really matter as I will still watch them anyway, to say that I have done more than any other reason lol. Taste in movies is generally subjective but as they are the highest rated movies by IMDB members I thought they would be well aimed for the masses. I was basically trying to work out if it just wasn't my kind of movie, if I was maybe missing something in the era (due to watching it now, rather than then) or if it really is just over rated and crap.

 

My thinking at this point is the latter.

 

I watched it when I had glandular fever and it felt like it was going to be the last nail in my coffin. I tried to watch it years later but couldn't because it was so boring.

 

Yeah, I could think of better things to be watching while ill. Watching 4 hours of someone constantly regurgitating into a used ashtray and sucking it back up for example.

 

Its not a film I could watch very often but I think it deserves its place in the top 100. The whole movie is a slow build up to the end, I want to watch it again now! haha

 

Slow build up? That has to be the biggest understatement ever. I'm 10 mins from the end of the film (and yet I have peeled myself away from it still bored to tears) and other than an awkward almost sex scene pretty much nothing has happened. Even the way they show the squads going mental is very unrealistic. I could easily pick 400 movies that I have enjoyed more than this drivvle.

 

I was just reading a thread on 4chan about really popular films that you think are overated, stuff like Donnie Darko, Inception etc.

 

I dont think I've ever seen Apocalypse Now, I remember the front cover though. Lol

 

This would certainly fall into that category. Although I really enjoyed donnie darko and inception :D

 

Never seen it. Not that bothered about it.

 

Unless to quench the thirst of curiosity I wouldn't bother lol

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1. 9.2 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 567,749 Seen

2. 9.2 The Godfather (1972) 442,087 Seen

3. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 268,095 Seen

4. 8.9 The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) 178,386 Seen (will need to rewatch, I was young)

5. 8.9 Pulp Fiction (1994) 452,453 Seen

6. 8.9 Schindler's List (1993) 300,407

7. 8.9 12 Angry Men (1957) 133,786

8. 8.8 Inception (2010) 310,235 Seen

9. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 234,663 Seen

10. 8.8 The Dark Knight (2008) 506,523 Seen

11. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 298,787 Seen

12. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 394,459 Seen

13. 8.8 Seven Samurai (1954) 104,507

14. 8.7 Fight Club (1999) 418,085 Seen

15. 8.7 Goodfellas (1990) 249,115 Seen

16. 8.7 Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) 342,052 Seen

17. 8.7 Casablanca (1942) 178,963

18. 8.7 City of God (2002) 183,302

19. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 417,365 Seen

20. 8.7 Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) 81,880

21. 8.7 Rear Window (1954) 128,194

22. 8.7 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 259,535 Seen

23. 8.7 The Matrix (1999) 412,995 Seen

24. 8.7 Psycho (1960) 155,766 Seen

25. 8.7 The Usual Suspects (1995) 286,352 Seen

26. 8.7 The Silence of the Lambs (1991) 267,679 Seen

27. 8.6 Se7en (1995) 306,075 Seen

28. 8.6 It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 110,490

29. 8.6 Memento (2000) 299,395 Seen

30. 8.6 Toy Story 3 (2010) 112,138

31. 8.6 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) 353,155 Seen

32. 8.6 Sunset Boulevard (1950) 59,572

33. 8.6 Forrest Gump (1994) 331,607 Seen

34. 8.6 Leon (1994) 220,767 Seen

35. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) 165,426

36. 8.6 Apocalypse Now (1979) 185,729 Almost Seen

37. 8.6 Citizen Kane (1941) 146,530

38. 8.5 North by Northwest (1959) 100,069

39. 8.5 American Beauty (1999) 314,637 Seen

40. 8.5 American History X (1998) 246,045 Seen

41. 8.5 Taxi Driver (1976) 170,256 Seen

42. 8.5 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) 257,691 Seen

43. 8.5 Saving Private Ryan (1998) 291,253 Seen

44. 8.5 Vertigo (1958) 98,700 Seen

45. 8.5 Alien (1979) 194,170 Seen

46. 8.5 Amelie (2001) 197,797

47. 8.5 WALL·E (2008) 204,226 Seen

48. 8.5 Spirited Away (2001) 112,388

49. 8.5 The Shining (1980) 193,711 Seen

50. 8.5 Paths of Glory (1957) 48,664

51. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 84,729

52. 8.5 Double Indemnity (1944) 40,261

53. 8.5 The Pianist (2002) 147,920

54. 8.5 A Clockwork Orange (1971) 208,411 Seen

55. 8.5 City Lights (1931) 30,873

56. 8.5 The Lives of Others (2006) 83,616

57. 8.4 M (1931) 43,215

58. 8.4 The Departed (2006) 288,201 Seen

59. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 88,422 Seen

60. 8.4 Aliens (1986) 181,721 Seen

61. 8.4 Black Swan (2010) 82,898 Seen

62. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 238,974 Seen

63. 8.4 Requiem for a Dream (2000) 202,660 Seen

64. 8.4 Das Boot (1981) 74,764 Seen

65. 8.4 The Third Man (1949) 54,274

66. 8.4 Reservoir Dogs (1992) 228,953 Seen

67. 8.4 L.A. Confidential (1997) 175,442 Seen

68. 8.4 Modern Times (1936) 39,466

69. 8.4 Chinatown (1974) 84,889

70. 8.4 Life is Beautiful (1997) 119,744

71. 8.4 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) 35,745

72. 8.4 Back to the Future (1985) 221,951 Seen

73. 8.4 The Prestige (2006) 231,516 Seen

74. 8.4 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) 164,970 Seen

75. 8.4 Raging Bull (1980) 96,936 Seen

76. 8.4 Pan's Labyrinth (2006) 169,636 Seen

77. 8.4 Cinema Paradiso (1988) 49,805

78. 8.3 Singin' in the Rain (1952) 59,526

79. 8.3 Some Like It Hot (1959) 72,561

80. 8.3 The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) 63,029

81. 8.3 Rashomon (1950) 42,249

82. 8.3 Once Upon a Time in America (1984) 78,524

83. 8.3 The Green Mile (1999) 219,312 Seen

84. 8.3 Amadeus (1984) 104,881 Seen

85. 8.3 All About Eve (1950) 37,255

86. 8.3 Full Metal Jacket (1987) 165,010 Seen

87. 8.3 Bicycle Thieves (1948) 30,319

88. 8.3 The Great Dictator (1940) 40,827

89. 8.3 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 171,387 Seen

90. 8.3 Braveheart (1995) 259,560 Seen

91. 8.3 Inglourious Basterds (2009) 208,603

92. 8.3 The Apartment (1960) 39,572

93. 8.3 Downfall (2004) 90,498

94. 8.3 Up (2009) 133,242

95. 8.3 The King's Speech (2010) 43,402

96. 8.3 Metropolis (1927) 43,439

97. 8.3 Gladiator (2000) 304,054 Seen

98. 8.3 Gran Torino (2008) 148,042 Seen

99. 8.3 The Sting (1973) 70,967 Seen

100. 8.3 Unforgiven (1992) 107,555 Seen

 

 

There have been a few changes since I got them, The Kings Speech being an obvious one, but most of them are pretty much as above. Nice to see Apocalypse Now going down the way (was 35 now 36).

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I agree FMJ, platoon and tigerland but didn't really enjoy apocalypse now! I didn't mean glorifying war I should have written Americans trying to justify there incompetence and not being able to realise that they were never going to win the war!

I would also possibly include deer hunter in the above list!

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It's an excellent head-fuck of a film (IMO).

 

What part of the movie is a headfuck? Surely by that you mean complicated or makes you think? It makes me sleep. The director is so transparent at what he sets out to do that it is laughable. The acting is absolutely shocking, and laughable in some scenes (the pause when Sheen's character meets the French). He spends more time "smell the fart" acting than he does actually acting, or talking for that matter. Staring intensely must have been the new thing when the film was made.

 

If the message about the pointless nature of the Vietnam war was meant to be hidden in the movie then I must have watched the unabridged version which showed the French family arguing about that very point with the Captain.

 

I liked the surfing part, and the part where the board got nicked. I also thought the scene where the playmates came in was pretty well done. The sex scene with them was ridiculous though.

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Yes - 70s films are "slower" than their modern day counterparts. It's a fashion thing.

 

However, do bear in mind that Apocalypse Now is NOT an action/war film. It's a wartime-based adaptation of a hundred-year-old book. A lot of the symbology in the film is married to characters, behaviours and observations from the original text, and makes more sense in that context.

 

As a standalone film, I tend to agree with you - it doesn't deliver much in the way of pure entertainment. In conjunction with the Heart of Darkness, however, it makes for a more cerebral (still not what I would call entertaining!!) study of human nature. Good stuff. If you're into that sort of thing, of course!

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Yes - 70s films are "slower" than their modern day counterparts. It's a fashion thing.

 

However, do bear in mind that Apocalypse Now is NOT an action/war film. It's a wartime-based adaptation of a hundred-year-old book. A lot of the symbology in the film is married to characters, behaviours and observations from the original text, and makes more sense in that context.

 

As a standalone film, I tend to agree with you - it doesn't deliver much in the way of pure entertainment. In conjunction with the Heart of Darkness, however, it makes for a more cerebral (still not what I would call entertaining!!) study of human nature. Good stuff. If you're into that sort of thing, of course!

 

Succinctly put.

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I love the film, it's not something I would watch every year or a film which I would sit down with my lass on a Saturday night and watch. But when the mood takes me I enjoy sitting down, getting wrecked and just watching it play out, yeah it's slow, but I love the buildup. I think it's a bit of an acquired taste.

 

NO WAY EVER is Inception No 8

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