ManwithSupra Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It will get to the point where fuel is just too expensive, Freight and shipping will become too expensive for business to function, Motorists will not be able to afford to go to work and the whole country will grind to a halt and they will be forced to reduce the prices. Personally i dont understand why we the UK are more than happy to turn around, bend over, take down our trousers and get rogered by the goverments and corporations whilst syaing "keep calm and carry on" - France wouldnt put up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 A lot of the government MPs are millionaires, and still get free car transport so the price rise really won't bother them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It will get to the point where fuel is just too expensive, Freight and shipping will become too expensive for business to function, Motorists will not be able to afford to go to work and the whole country will grind to a halt and they will be forced to reduce the prices. Personally i dont understand why we the UK are more than happy to turn around, bend over, take down our trousers and get rogered by the goverments and corporations whilst syaing "keep calm and carry on" - France wouldnt put up with it. Yeah that. It's artificially high oil prices after Hurricane Katrina that burst the U.S. housing bubble in the first place. That and raising interest rates 18 times in a row in The U.S. and almost as many times here. They do it on purpose. It's our 'special relationship', i.e. screw everyone on the planet for as long as we can get away with it. Oil prices are set to explode but it's all manipulated. Libya and Egypt are the excuse and it will spread. If it means we use less oil though, it helps sustain supplies. We either have cheap fuel and it runs out in 10 years or we have twice the cost and it lasts 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 We have lots of coal reserves so we can always have a steam driven supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What I dont get is why when oil price per barrel is at an all time high like it was early last year ($115 a barrel) and fuel rocketed up then. When the price per barrel went down the fuel did not go down with it!!! Now its at $110 and the prices are going up again!!! No wonder the Oil companies are making record profits. I know a hugh percentage goes to the government but come April time if the govenrment puts its 5p on fuel and the oil companies do the same, followed by the oil firms then anounce record profits like they seem to do year on year it wont be long before blockades are in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 We have lots of coal reserves so we can always have a steam driven supra. Could be done. Some of the first cars were steam engined. Electric too. Old Nikola Tesla sussed it out but they ignored him. All to make money and have control. Numptyheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What I dont get is why when oil price per barrel is at an all time high like it was early last year ($115 a barrel) and fuel rocketed up then. When the price per barrel went down the fuel did not go down with it!!! Now its at $110 and the prices are going up again!!! No wonder the Oil companies are making record profits. I know a hugh percentage goes to the government but come April time if the govenrment puts its 5p on fuel and the oil companies do the same, followed by the oil firms then anounce record profits like they seem to do year on year it wont be long before blockades are in place The oil Exec's are trying to bankrupt the middle classes and then create a world government and currency out of the chaos. They have big plans for us; well, some of us! http://futuresource.quote.com/quotes/chart.action?symbol=CL+%23F&compareTo=&topsyms=CL&month=%23F&year=2011&chartAggregation=M&chartStyle=BAR&chartSize=650x450&chartDensity=MEDIUM&userStudies=&x=39&y=13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What I dont get is why when oil price per barrel is at an all time high like it was early last year ($115 a barrel) and fuel rocketed up then. When the price per barrel went down the fuel did not go down with it!!! Now its at $110 and the prices are going up again!!! No wonder the Oil companies are making record profits. I know a hugh percentage goes to the government but come April time if the govenrment puts its 5p on fuel and the oil companies do the same, followed by the oil firms then anounce record profits like they seem to do year on year it wont be long before blockades are in place Would it not make sense then buying shares in said oil companies as they'd be sure fire winners? Worth thinking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It will get to the point where fuel is just too expensive, Freight and shipping will become too expensive for business to function, Motorists will not be able to afford to go to work and the whole country will grind to a halt and they will be forced to reduce the prices. Personally i dont understand why we the UK are more than happy to turn around, bend over, take down our trousers and get rogered by the goverments and corporations whilst syaing "keep calm and carry on" - France wouldnt put up with it. I quite agree, except we take it both ends these days:( Yeah that. It's artificially high oil prices after Hurricane Katrina that burst the U.S. housing bubble in the first place. That and raising interest rates 18 times in a row in The U.S. and almost as many times here. They do it on purpose. It's our 'special relationship', i.e. screw everyone on the planet for as long as we can get away with it. Oil prices are set to explode but it's all manipulated. Libya and Egypt are the excuse and it will spread. If it means we use less oil though, it helps sustain supplies. We either have cheap fuel and it runs out in 10 years or we have twice the cost and it lasts 15. The most annoying thing with all this fuel price hikes and crisis, is that they could easily use alternative's, that have been around for quite some years, but they wouldn't be able to justify the taxation so easy, it got nothing to do with oil running out its just how much money they can screw us for before we get wise to it, and someone comes up with a sneaky way to get around the governmental control of the fuel industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS2004 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 LPG conversions anyone? Isnt it higher octane than petrol anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Would it not make sense then buying shares in said oil companies as they'd be sure fire winners? Worth thinking about Did look at exacly that when the BP crisis hit in the US. I expected the prices would plumit and it would be worth taking a gamble on buying BP shares assuming that a company like BP wont go out of buisness. In reality they did not move that much so unless dealing in hundreds of thousands of shares its just not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Would it not make sense then buying shares in said oil companies as they'd be sure fire winners? Worth thinking about Yep, or futures. Tax free spreadbetting....... IGIndex.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 ....nothing to do with oil running out its just how much money they can screw us for before we get wise to it, and someone comes up with a sneaky way to get around the governmental control of the fuel industry. Have you looked at Stan Meyer's water fuel cell stuff? He's dead. They buy the patents if the inventors will sell. If the inventors won't sell-out, they are suicided, you know, three shotgun blasts to the head etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJP Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What I dont get is why when oil price per barrel is at an all time high like it was early last year ($115 a barrel) and fuel rocketed up then. When the price per barrel went down the fuel did not go down with it!!! Now its at $110 and the prices are going up again!!! No wonder the Oil companies are making record profits. I know a hugh percentage goes to the government but come April time if the govenrment puts its 5p on fuel and the oil companies do the same, followed by the oil firms then anounce record profits like they seem to do year on year it wont be long before blockades are in place And they are just about to get a huge bonus, how I miss working for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Did look at exacly that when the BP crisis hit in the US. I expected the prices would plumit and it would be worth taking a gamble on buying BP shares assuming that a company like BP wont go out of buisness. In reality they did not move that much so unless dealing in hundreds of thousands of shares its just not worth it. It really would have been worth it. They are double or so in under a year. I know its hundreds of thousands of shares but equate that into money terms. 2k = 4k in under a years time.\ Im kicking myself i didnt buy any. Track Halliburton, Schlumberger, Weatherford, Baker Hughes after the slump when the recession hit to now. All these companies mimic the price of crude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweegin Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 ..we all know the main crux of our fuel price is tax, even if they don't freeze Joe public's prices, why can't they cut a deal with the price to haulage companies so the cost of living doesn't keep increasing?! It is possible to do less miles, maybe...but we all still need to eat. Yet..just today, on the radio, was a major discussion on the amount of UK homes living on or below the poverty line... The say we live in a democracy..but I see no signs of the politicians we elect actually listening to Joe Public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 It was all going so well until Morpheus turned up How high do we think prices can go before something drastic will have to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Bless ol' Brian Madderson He's presenting at one of our corporate dinners this Sunday night - i wonder if this'll come up?!! EDIT: Just spoken with editors at my place (Forecourt Trader), we also ran this story yesterday BUT they said by April we're looking at the 5ppl increase via the duty increase "if" it goes ahead, and the other 5ppl will be from the MESS over in the East Still a pain in the arse whatever way u slice it ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Unfortunately, we've spent the last 50 or 60 years creating a society which actually relies on personal transport - supermarkets then hypermarkets then out of town shopping malls, ever more centralized hospitals and doctors' surgeries, offices, warehouses, and factories that have become more centralized, a reduced railway network, bus privatization, everything jammed into the South East making house prices so high that nobody can afford to live near work, etc - and rather than try to reduce the use of cars by creating policies that aim to reduce the necessity to use cars, the response of national government is to raise tax and the response of local government is to re-engineer roads to create traffic jams while continuing to allow retail developments that need car drivers. I wonder at what point the price of fuel outweighs the savings made by shopping at a supermarket? Perhaps it's time to buy a corner shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 EDIT: Just spoken with editors at my place (Forecourt Trader), we also ran this story yesterday BUT they said by April we're looking at the 5ppl increase via the duty increase "if" it goes ahead, and the other 5ppl will be from the MESS over in the East Still a pain in the arse whatever way u slice it ..... Did you read the article? That's what we said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Did you read the article? That's what we said I "skimmed" it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Why don't we just all revolt like Egypt, gets results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Democracy is the last thing we need. It's mob rule. A so called majority tells everyone else what to do. A Republic like The States used to be is the way forward. If America followed it's own Constitution, we wouldn't be in this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 LPG conversions anyone? Isnt it higher octane than petrol anyways? Someone on here has done it, I think. Only thing is, if enough people converted, the price would just increase like when diesel became more popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Why don't we just all revolt like Egypt, gets results 'cos we can't afford to fill the bottles with petrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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