Guest samsalter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 hia guys i am new here i am 20 at the minute and i will be 21 in june, i am on a traders policy that has me restricted till im 21. so in the summer i am hoping to get my dream car SUPRA. i was thinking that i would really get some big power if i had a supra, like 500 bhp, maybe a single turbo and so on. but should i buy a twin turbo to do this?? or is it just as cheap to start off with basic 3l and move on from there?? i would be able to afford a non turbo as the twin turbos seem to be more rare and expensive. basically one day hoping to have a supra and get as much power as i can from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hello If you're wanting a turbo Supra, you're much better off starting with one. The Non turbo (NA) is quite expensive to turbocharge properly. Depending on you budget, a twin turbo (TT) auto is often a great starting point, as good ones start from not much over £5k. Be aware however, that these are not cars that can be run on a shoestring. Parts can be expensive, and your fuel bill certainly will be Don't automatically assume the manual is better than the auto, the auto gearbox in the Supra is fantastic. The manuals command much higher prices in TT models. Single turbo Supras can fantastic, but they can also be a serious drain on the wallet. Turbo Supras can be a handful for relatively inexperienced drivers, so if you're looking for your first RWD car, you may want to go for something else first (many members on here have previously owned 200SXs or MX-5s, these are excellent cars for learning RWD control) The search button will provide alot more information than I have given, usually anything you want to know about Supras can be found that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 making a single turbo is the easy part making a reliable one is where the fun starts as many members on here will tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Why not just buy a proper big single, say around 700 + and save messing around with under powered TT's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Why not just buy a proper big single, say around 700 + and save messing around with under powered TT's. Would save money on doing it all him self to if he buys one all done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 How much experience in RWD cars do you have? More often than not, people your age (or should I say our age - since I'm also turning 21 in June), have no clue about RWD cars. Mix inexperience with RWD and two turbos and you will have an unpleasant ending to your life (we get plenty of people coming on here, saying "I want Supra! 1000hp! I'm 17!"). I found that the non-turbo was a great introduction to RWD cars. If your looking for something cheap, then you've come to the wrong place aswell. Either way... welcome to the club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samsalter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 i have no experience in RWD cars, that is a reason why i wanted to start without a turbo. but i will fall in love with the first supra i own so prob will keep it for life, meaning if i want it to be a 500+ car then i should buy a TT. i want to do this properly, i know it will be expensive and hopefully one day i will have a good enough job to cover the costs, as this year i am finishing uni i aint going to chav it up lol i will do it properly over time i dont really want an automatic either, so it looks like i will have to save a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Josh Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I went from a 1.9TDi Golf (which I'm selling, do you want to buy it?) to the TT6 Supra and tbh if you know what you're doing and keep your wits about you, you can't really mess it up. I've not lost control of it yet, the back end has come loose on one occasion going round an island but that was my fault and the road was wet and it was the middle of the night. I let off the throttle and it straightened up with no issues. I'd probably suggest not going for a 550bhp single turbo to start with. Save up and buy a TT6 then either single it yourself or don't get too attached to it and just sell it for a single when you have experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Welcome! Get out and test drive a manual NA, and auto and manual TTs and make your mind up Go for something sensible to learn the car, make a mistake in a 500+hp supra and it will bite you, hard. Edited February 23, 2011 by TubbyTwo (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest samsalter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 thanks guys, i think i will get a TT and wait till i have saved up rather than a NA on a limited budget. i will stay on the forum and look at stuff and hopefully one day i will know all that i need to know when i get one in the mean time, here is my MK2 MG ZR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS2004 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Even an N/A can bite you. If you have no experience in RWD or turbo cars then an N/A just for the experience would be worthwhile. If you save up for a big power single and subsequently bin it youl be kicking yourself. As mentioned earlier too dont fully disregard the auto box - its not like something they drop into a peugeot - its actually a very good system. But if you do test drive an auto make sure you remember it is an auto or you may end up planting the front end into something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samsalter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 If you save up for a big power single and subsequently bin it youl be kicking yourself. very true!! dont want that i know the cars are described as 'bullet proof' so i pressume the auto box is too. but i dont know if i can drive an auto, i drove one the other day and bumped it into a parked car when i tried to park haha. they were both my mates cars and he just laughed, no damage done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 If you save up for a big power single and subsequently bin it youl be kicking yourself. very true!! dont want that i know the cars are described as 'bullet proof' so i pressume the auto box is too. but i dont know if i can drive an auto, i drove one the other day and bumped it into a parked car when i tried to park haha. they were both my mates cars and he just laughed, no damage done I'm sure you'd get used to it. I went for the 6 speed just because I don't think I'd enjoy myself as much in an auto (however good the 'box is). I think if you're careful then you won't have any issue driving a TT. I'm only 22 and this is the first RWD car I've driven (other than a 360, Gallardo and DB9 on an experience day) and I find the car very controllable. As long as you have good tyres fitted and aren't giving it hell all the time then it'll stick and go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Come on the summer.... uh uh ahhhhhhhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 very true!! dont want that i know the cars are described as 'bullet proof' so i pressume the auto box is too. but i dont know if i can drive an auto, i drove one the other day and bumped it into a parked car when i tried to park haha. they were both my mates cars and he just laughed, no damage done Common problem that. An automatic car parked up on a beach here tried to reverse a while back. Unaware that the car was actually set to go forward, it fell off a beach wall and killed a young child. Very unfortunate. But at the end of the day, that comes down to user error. In all honesty, I think you should start off with an N/A. You can get an N/A as part of your saving towards a TT. That way you can drive a Supra earlier and you will become more experienced in RWD cars. You will be in preparation by the time you save up for the TT (plus the price will be minus what your N/A will be worth). You can't go wrong with that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 as said above, get some experice with RWD buy a cheap 180sx or something like that to start with (they are cheaper to fixthan a supe) or just go for an NA and then you can get the basic handle of it all. i went from a 350bhp 200sx and got an NA supra and it was worth it, the NA will teach you how to handle a supra with the respect it needs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samsalter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Common problem that. An automatic car parked up on a beach here tried to reverse a while back. Unaware that the car was actually set to go forward, it fell off a beach wall and killed a young child. Very unfortunate. But at the end of the day, that comes down to user error. In all honesty, I think you should start off with an N/A. You can get an N/A as part of your saving towards a TT. That way you can drive a Supra earlier and you will become more experienced in RWD cars. You will be in preparation by the time you save up for the TT (plus the price will be minus what your N/A will be worth). You can't go wrong with that idea. the first part is so harsh, very unfortunate the second part is a great idea, i will defo think of doing that. it will still be a supra, just a baby one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samsalter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 what does the rz mean guys??? is that top spec?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/forumdisplay.php?60-Basic-Supra-Guides Have a look at the model differences guide, dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samsalter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/forumdisplay.php?60-Basic-Supra-Guides Have a look at the model differences guide, dude nice one man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 i have no experience in RWD cars, that is a reason why i wanted to start without a turbo. but i will fall in love with the first supra i own so prob will keep it for life, meaning if i want it to be a 500+ car then i should buy a TT. i want to do this properly, i know it will be expensive and hopefully one day i will have a good enough job to cover the costs, as this year i am finishing uni i aint going to chav it up lol i will do it properly over time i dont really want an automatic either, so it looks like i will have to save a lot. Josh II anyone - have you raced any R8's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS2004 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Read up as much as you can about the supra before you buy one - it will reduce your chances of picking one up that has been hammered, and will give you tips on what to look for. There is a well put together safe driving tip thread that I make a point of reading at least every couple of monthshttp://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?131040-Safer-Driving-Tips-**PLEASE-READ** The forum and knowledge within is more than worth the subscription fee - things like this thread: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?140112-WARNING-15-year-old-brake-line-rotted-through will give you a heads up about problems relating to the cars age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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