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Mainstream electric car usage -especially with 'free electricity' as an incentive- is surely just going to push up power production and actually create MORE bad gasses? What they should be pushing is sustainable living; personal wind turbine and PV cells on every home, gravity fed toilet flushing from gutter filled water butts, half of all garden space used to grow food etc. etc.

 

Apparently a 6m-sq PV cell can power the average electric car commuter.

 

//edit: D'OH.

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Its hardly zero emission is it, where does the electricity come from, how are the batteries made, how are the parts shipped around the globe, what do the factories run on that produce them.

 

People can be so blind :(

 

There was a bit on 5th gear about this last night, apparently when you take all of that into account, the overall production of carbon is approximately 1/3 of an equivalent petrol car.

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There was a bit on 5th gear about this last night, apparently when you take all of that into account, the overall production of carbon is approximately 1/3 of an equivalent petrol car.

 

It's still too much unless you're filling all the seats on each journey to minimise CO2 kg/commuter mile. Ideally we all need to ride wooden bicycles, keep them for at least 10,000 miles and ride at a steady pace so we don't need a shower at the other end!!!

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It's still too much unless you're filling all the seats on each journey to minimise CO2 kg/commuter mile. Ideally we all need to ride wooden bicycles, keep them for at least 10,000 miles and ride at a steady pace so we don't need a shower at the other end!!!

 

Sounds like a plan :D

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There was a bit on 5th gear about this last night, apparently when you take all of that into account, the overall production of carbon is approximately 1/3 of an equivalent petrol car.

 

Thats better than I would have expected, do we now have a way to properly dispose of the batteries too?

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Rob,

 

Remember when we drove to Scarborough and Whitby and back in a very long, fast day? Just a day trip to Scarborough will take you two days (overnight recharge).

 

It'd take me three days to drive to my parents in one! I'm not feeling very sold on the idea.

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Rob,

 

Remember when we drove to Scarborough and Whitby and back in a very long, fast day? Just a day trip to Scarborough will take you two days (overnight recharge).

 

It'd take me three days to drive to my parents in one! I'm not feeling very sold on the idea.

 

A quick charging station (apparently available at many petrol stations - though i'm yet to see one) can do a full charge in 20 mins. Plenty of time for a Ginsters, Lucozade and a copy of Nutz/Zoo :D

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But where will the electricity come from in the future? Aren't we already running short of coal and I don't see a rush to embrace nuclear energy. Solar and wind power may look good but I doubt they'll ever make the amount of energy that we currently consume.

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But where will the electricity come from in the future? Aren't we already running short of coal and I don't see a rush to embrace nuclear energy. Solar and wind power may look good but I doubt they'll ever make the amount of energy that we currently consume.

 

 

Nuclear energy is going to be the growth industry in the UK in the next few years. My company is looking at expanding vastly in that area.

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TBH I think nuclear is the least worst option. I don't think anyone will be particularly happy about it but will accept it if it means they don't have to change their lifestyle.

 

So, energy solved. Lots of leccy for battery powered cars. What about lubricant for them once the oil goes? That super-fine sand from Greenland (or was it Iceland) that flows like liquid?

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But where will the electricity come from in the future? Aren't we already running short of coal and I don't see a rush to embrace nuclear energy. Solar and wind power may look good but I doubt they'll ever make the amount of energy that we currently consume.

 

Electrically powered cars aren't a solution and never have been. However, cars are a transport reality and something had to be done to begin lowering CO2 and preserve fossil fuels in the shorter term. New or hyper-efficient electricity generation methods will eventually be developed, as will alternative methods of propulsion for cars.

 

Here's another interesting thing to think about: how about you drive your car all day, and when you park it up you plug it into your house and it powers your house, making you all-but independent of the national grid? You might even pump energy back into the grip for government remuneration. I believe this technology will surface soon, and it'll represent another huge change in how people use their cars.

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