Morpheus Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 hi mate.. tryed again.. a few times even left it over a minute. even took the batuary out and left it still no luck. i will email gigabyte see what they say Ok, have you tried the opposite approach by touching the pins for a second or two only? It really can be a bugger to do, atleast on mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 what touching the to clear cmos pins together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 what touching the to clear cmos pins together? If you have pins with a jumper connector, just hold it on the pins and take it off after a couple of seconds. It seems to work randomly regarding timing but anything up to 30 seconds for mine. Obviously I'm assuming that they're not connected when you turn it on? If there are three, you need to put it back on where it came off. If there are two, just leave it off and switch on the power. Correction, follow manual instructions, as it might even work the opposite way round! The battery is what clears the CMOS, so it needs to be there, btw, otherwise touching the pins wouldn't do anything unless there's onboard power somewhere else. It does however maintain the clock and some other settings, as not all are cleared while jumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 hi morpheus. yer thats the way to clear the cmos on this board, is to link the 2 pins. which i have done already a few times and as i said even up to a minute.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 hi morpheus. yer thats the way to clear the cmos on this board, is to link the 2 pins. which i have done already a few times and as i said even up to a minute.. Ok, so you're absolutely sure that everything is seated properly and the cpu is ok? I'm not saying that it isn't the PSU, just that this exact same thing is deja vu to me and I've always sorted it. Something isn't right with the BIOS but by all means try another PSU. I doubt that it will make any difference though. I gave an ebay link earlier to a tester that should help. Mine cost a couple of quid but doesn't have digital readouts, just LED's. I just don't want to see you blowing money on a new PSU when you've got one that should work, does work but might possibly be faulty if it got through Q.C. which is just very unlikely. Best contact supplier or Gigabyte if you can't fix it. I just know that I could if the power is ok. You might just have a bad BIOS chip. Do you have a multi-meter to test the PSU outputs? I've clocked the holy crap out of this one and it's perfectly stable. Ultra Durable it definitely is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 thanks for all the time morpheus. everything is checked.. i cant see why it would be the cpu iv e-mailed gigabyte and i will gice overclockers a call see what that say on friday i know what u mean by not throughing away my money with a power supply if that isnt the case.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 thanks for all the time morpheus. everything is checked.. i cant see why it would be the cpu iv e-mailed gigabyte and i will gice overclockers a call see what that say on friday i know what u mean by not throughing away my money with a power supply if that isnt the case.. No worries Mate. Let me know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Size Me Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I can't quite tell from your vid as it's dark but have you already connected both of your graphics cards ? If so try just 1 card in the primary slot, as with most BIOS's you have to tell the BIOS to run crossfire/SLI (and at what speeds for each PCI-E slot i.e. x16/x16 ) then shut comp down and restart after installing second card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 hi mate. gigabyte boards you dont need to tell bios its crossfired. but it not even getting a chance to load up bios and i have tryed 1 card. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Plethora Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Here's a couple of suggestions to try or things to check over that I would do... 1. On the backplate of your case where the connectors are, check the USB sockets are clear, these metal IO sheild plates usually have slight flexible arms around each opening to aid fitting, check these are not getting in the way of the USB socket and causing a short circuit. 2. Disconnect hard drives and CD drives from your motherboard (power and sata cables) to see if you get a BIOS screen. 3. Test the motherboard outside of the case, there could be a short somewhere. 4. Run with one or no graphics card as a test or an old low power PCI express one to test if you have one handy. If you run with no card it should still at least fire up. 5. This watercooling you have, I dont have that one personally but the retail packing seems it comes with a connector to cut down fan speed? Maybe this is too low and the board things your fan isnt spinning fast enough so cuts power. Try a standard heatsink fan combo to test. 6. As before reset the BIOS for a decent length of time. 7. Check all motherboard power connectors are in, the 4 pin one you mention should be fine, 2 of my boards have the 8 pin connector and I run them both on 4 pin. 8. The creative soundcard should be fine but as a test remove the front pannel connector, check that the plug is on the right way, some have a blank spot on the connector so you can fit it only one way, others are open so you can plug it any way. 9. What CPU are you using with this? Worth checking it is all seated correctly, no bent CPU pins etc and that the heatsink or water cooling head is in place. I think this all points to a short or something not seated correctly or in the right way. Any chance you can take a decently sized picture of your setup? Hard to see in the vid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I give up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't get what the problem is here. This issue should be rooted out in 20 minutes. Why is it taking days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't get what the problem is here. This issue should be rooted out in 20 minutes. Why is it taking days? I have a theory..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I give up! ...maybe it's his monitor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I have a theory..... What evidence do you have? It's only a conspiracy theory otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What you need is a fault code display, 4 LED's or digital? Presuming no lights on board. Check the manual for error codes and it should tell you at what point the board is halting. If not, get your shop to plug a rear panel bracket in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What you need is a fault code display, 4 LED's or digital? Presuming no lights on board. Check the manual for error codes and it should tell you at what point the board is halting. If not, get your shop to plug a rear panel bracket in. Easier than that. What you need is to remove all the stuff from the board, plug in power & the gfx card along with the gfx card secondary power. Leave 1 stick of ram in. If it works, something else is causing the fault or the PSU isn't up to the job, change memory stick. If it doesn't, try the other GFX card then see the above. If it still doesn't bin the PSU and get another one. If that doesn't fix it the motherboard is fooked. Job done! If that even took 20 mins with a lamb shank in between I would be slipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 I just need to check all other possiabilitys as i if its not the power supply i will waste £180 getting one.. Im just about to take the board out of the case and will update you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I just need to check all other possiabilitys as i if its not the power supply i will waste £180 getting one.. Im just about to take the board out of the case and will update you guys. I thought you said you could get one from the shop and return it if it wasn't the issue? You're turning this into a right saga. I have a cheap ass PSU up the loft that I use for this very purpose. Think it cost me £15. I wouldn't put it near a system for use but for testing faulty PSUs it's ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 What you mean by saga scott? To cut a long story short, the origanal board was sent directly to gigabyte, they replaced it with this on, iv fitted it and this one isnt starting up but iv found the problem now. I took the CPU out and the pins dont look right. You have to look right up close to them to notice. Looks like this replacement was a customer return. Thanks for all the help guys Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What you mean by saga scott? To cut a long story short, the origanal board was sent directly to gigabyte, they replaced it with this one. This one isnt starting up but iv found the problem now. I took the CPU out and the pins dont look right. You have to look right up close to them to notice. Looks like this replacement was a customer return. Thanks for all the help guys Paul I don't think that would turn the PC off though. By Saga I mean you are making a massive huge everest out of a molehill. It is VERY easy to diagnose what is wrong with a PC when it comes to power. Strip everything out (just unplugging for the most part), remove the memory, remove the CPU, remove the GFX card etc etc etc. Turn it on. If it still does the turning off thing that would point to the PSU. You were offered a PSU by the computer store, why not take them up on it and try it. 5 mins will rule out the PSU and you can move onto the next item. With regards to the motherboard pins looking funny, you may find that you have caused that damage. Even if you haven't, you may have a hard time proving that you didn't. Unless of course they openly admit to sending you out a return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What you mean by saga scott? To cut a long story short, the origanal board was sent directly to gigabyte, they replaced it with this on, iv fitted it and this one isnt starting up but iv found the problem now. I took the CPU out and the pins dont look right. You have to look right up close to them to notice. Looks like this replacement was a customer return. Thanks for all the help guys Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't think that would turn the PC off though. By Saga I mean you are making a massive huge everest out of a molehill. It is VERY easy to diagnose what is wrong with a PC when it comes to power. Strip everything out (just unplugging for the most part), remove the memory, remove the CPU, remove the GFX card etc etc etc. Turn it on. If it still does the turning off thing that would point to the PSU. You were offered a PSU by the computer store, why not take them up on it and try it. 5 mins will rule out the PSU and you can move onto the next item. With regards to the motherboard pins looking funny, you may find that you have caused that damage. Even if you haven't, you may have a hard time proving that you didn't. Unless of course they openly admit to sending you out a return. Scott, the power goes on and off because the board is in a perfectly normal boot cycle and is trying different settings each time to see if it can boot. Normally it will be the memory but it will beep when that's out of range. I've had this so many times. The PSU is really the least likely thing to be the problem when it's cycling like this. A 1000w unit would have no problem here. It's just not reasonable to suspect it when the board hasn't even been set up yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Scott, the power goes on and off because the board is in a perfectly normal boot cycle and is trying different settings each time to see if it can boot. Normally it will be the memory but it will beep when that's out of range. I've had this so many times. The PSU is really the least likely thing to be the problem when it's cycling like this. A 1000w unit would have no problem here. It's just not reasonable to suspect it when the board hasn't even been setup yet. I've only had 1 board do this on me and it was the memory at fault. I'm sure memory was covered in the post of mine you quoted though. He needs to stop faffing about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I've only had 1 board do this on me and it was the memory at fault. Yeah, memory will cycle through the timing table if not set in range. I've had one board (this GA-P35C-DS3R) do this on me dozens of times when over-clocking it. I even bent a few pins once and re-aligned them. This board should have been toast years ago but the worst that happens is the BIOS gets corrupted when over-clocking too far. I've had this pc up to 4.7GHz with an E8600 and fried an E3110 Xeon in it but still, it runs stable at 4GHz. As soon as I saw the video, it was like Deja Vu all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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