Oddball87 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 With the power i want with my single build (800 hp) i will need a built engine. What is the best parts to go for? If someone could get me a list up of everything i will need that would be a big help thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Are you building yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 No mate dont trust myself working on the internals, It will go to SRD when i am ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I'd get Lee's recommendations then - he's built high power engines, so get his thoughts on it, after all, he's putting it together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinitom Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 CP pistons ACL main and rod bearings ARP head studs and connecting rod bolts. If you are going to add more rpm to the engine you may want to upgrade valves, v seats, and springs. that’s what people normally use, be aware that some members had problems with CP pistons (Jamie P may say something about that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Have a look at JamieP's second project thread. There's a lot of useful info on his build engine, with reliable parts for the power you're after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 I'd get Lee's recommendations then - he's built high power engines, so get his thoughts on it, after all, he's putting it together! yup i have done waiting for a reply. Just want a few opinions on it cheers dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Tough call , I dont think there is much data other than anecdotal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 CP pistons ACL main and rod bearings ARP head studs and connecting rod bolts. If you are going to add more rpm to the engine you may want to upgrade valves, v seats, and springs. that’s what people normally use, be aware that some members had problems with CP pistons (Jamie P may say something about that). Thanks mate i having been looking at them, I have heard Mahle pistons are good anyone no how good, are they better than CP? Yes the cylinder head will be done also, is it cheaper/easyer to go and get one of whifbitz ready build heads and what stage head should i go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 And why we are on the subject stroker kits are they worth the money and more inportantly are they as strong as they make out to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I have a built bottom end already done 760hp, JE pistons, Carillo rods, carr bolts, balanced bottom end, new oil pump, £3K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 This would be my choice, its what I currently run: Bottom end: Mahle pistons Carillo H beam rods ARP head and main studs Toyota oil pump ACL race bearings (if you can get hold of any) Toyota head gasket Titan Motorsports timing belt tensioner bracket Gates Racing cambelt Head components: Supertech 1mm oversize valves Supertech springs, caps, locators My own 280 9.9mm lift cams, proven to give more bhp/torque than the HKS 280 Vernier cam gears, I do my own so I'm going to recommend my ones of course Think thats about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 This would be my choice, its what I currently run: Bottom end: Mahle pistons Carillo H beam rods ARP head and main studs Toyota oil pump ACL race bearings (if you can get hold of any) Toyota head gasket Titan Motorsports timing belt tensioner bracket Gates Racing cambelt Head components: Supertech 1mm oversize valves Supertech springs, caps, locators My own 280 9.9mm lift cams, proven to give more bhp/torque than the HKS 280 Vernier cam gears, I do my own so I'm going to recommend my ones of course Think thats about it! Could you give me a price please Paul, without cams/cam gears/cam belt/and oil pump thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Could you give me a price please Paul, without cams/cam gears/cam belt/and oil pump thanks Whats your email address and I'll put a quote together for you. I can work out a better deal on the parts if we build the engine for you as well by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Give Lee a pm mate he doesn't mind giving adviceeven though I must of pushed him close to the edge. If it was me Mahle pistons Carrillo H rods Arp head bolt Arp main bolts Supertech double valve springs Supertech 1mm oversized valves and relevent parts A set of SRD 280 cams Billet timing belt tensioner bracket TRD engine mounts Maybe billet main caps TRD diff RPS carbon carbon clutch Well that's where I would start then put it forward to Lee for comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Give Lee a pm mate he doesn't mind giving adviceeven though I must of pushed him close to the edge. If it was me Mahle pistons Carrillo H rods Arp head bolt Arp main bolts Supertech double valve springs Supertech 1mm oversized valves and relevent parts A set of SRD 280 cams Billet timing belt tensioner bracket TRD engine mounts Maybe billet main caps TRD diff RPS carbon carbon clutch Well that's where I would start then put it forward to Lee for comments lol yes mate i have pm him them cam's are they the stage 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 This would be my choice, its what I currently run: Bottom end: Mahle pistons Carillo H beam rods ARP head and main studs Toyota oil pump ACL race bearings (if you can get hold of any) Toyota head gasket Titan Motorsports timing belt tensioner bracket Gates Racing cambelt Think thats about it! My list is the same as Paul's. Can't comment on head build.. except that I would probably go for an MVP or Headgames unit from the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 its definatly worth contacting paul (whifbitz) he has been top class with my build so far:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 Lee suggested this Carrillo h beam rods with car bolts Cosworth pistons PE bearings Arp main studs Billet main caps Arp head studs Billet tensioner bracket New stock crank pulley New water pump New oil pump Full engine gasket set Ferrea Valve train kit SRD stage 3 cams Bronze guides Shimless Buckets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 The billet mains and studs and line boring will add over £1k to the build and prob not absolutly needed for 800hp, nice to have though.Carrillos are nice but over twice the price as Brian Crower rods that are used in many 1500 hp cars in the states, I have a set of Carrillos but used the BC's.If you are going Billet mains then you would really want to go for the Exotic ARP studs at around $600. The Cosworth pistons will be great I will be using them in a build soon and can supply those cheaper than anywhere else if Im building the engine, but once again Ive used CP in my stroker kit. Why don't you look for a built engine and head you can refresh that way you can sell your complete engine for decent money to recoup some costs. For example I would sell the built and refreshed bottom end and the big valve head for around £3800 as I don't need it as a spare for the race car as we have 2 3.4's, that means whoever buys it can sell their complete engine for £12-1500, £2600 for a built 1000hp spec engine is damn cheap I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Lee suggested this Carrillo h beam rods with car bolts Cosworth pistons PE bearings Arp main studs Billet main caps Arp head studs Billet tensioner bracket New stock crank pulley New water pump New oil pump Full engine gasket set Ferrea Valve train kit SRD stage 3 cams Bronze guides Shimless Buckets That's pretty much the spec I'd go with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 is there a difference between "H" beam and "I" beam or is it two ways to describe the same type?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 is there a difference between "H" beam and "I" beam or is it two ways to describe the same type?? One looks like an H the other an I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes a difference in price and strength and i have always found the I beams to be heavier. For serious power I would say stick with Crower or Carrillo, personally I think the Carrillos are way overpriced and I use Crowers, Im putting my race engine together over the weekend and Im sticking with the BC rods even though I have a set of Carrillos I can use. The stock rods are great if you change the rod bolts, I would take the stock rods over the Pauters and eagles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) how much roughly does it cost to port/knife edge the head?? this is mine- JE pistons and rings Arp main studs Arp head studs Boostlogic crank pulley New water pump New oil pump Full engine gasket set Block was honed as well. All new bearings fitted and platigauged. Edited February 11, 2011 by Rob_Mitchell (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 i'm building a 800hp engine on the side! ( the engine i have is 612hp so just building one on the side for the jump) I purchased carrillo "I" beam rods for my build. they should be fine right?? also Mr Chris Wilson said that for that power level i should be trying to source a billet crank! i have billet main caps only bearings and pistons left on the bottom to get! Also thought that cosworth where only just developing there pistons (in a drift car i think) so are they try'd and tested at these power levels?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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