johnny g Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Thanks Ryan, it will be good to see how the turbo technology advances, I hope they don't hamstring it, at the moment the GP bike engine tech is far ahead of the F1 engine stuff Have you seen DBW throttle actuators than can be retro fitted to a multiple throttle body set up, like the RB26DETT, or Jenvey type aftermarket set ups? Maybe I should drag myself out of the dark ages and embrace more of this electrickery? Chris, would each DBW throttle not require it's own input? I suppose Ryan could answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Nice work Ryan, well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) Nope Only seen the VVTi ones in blue. I need a trader to make a hardpipe! GReddy use to do an aluminium hardpipe for the VVTi 2JZ-GTE, they are discontinued now unfortunately but you may be able to find one, the part number is 13911251. http://www.trust-power.com/03electric/img/radi_pipe.jpg Edited May 22, 2011 by Nic (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Cheers, Nic. Probably easier to have one fabbed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Chris, would each DBW throttle not require it's own input? I suppose Ryan could answer that. No, they all open as one, a generic type of actuator should handle this, but given the range of set ups this might be tricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Thanks Ryan, it will be good to see how the turbo technology advances, I hope they don't hamstring it, at the moment the GP bike engine tech is far ahead of the F1 engine stuff Have you seen DBW throttle actuators than can be retro fitted to a multiple throttle body set up, like the RB26DETT, or Jenvey type aftermarket set ups? Maybe I should drag myself out of the dark ages and embrace more of this electrickery? I have not seen any and doubt it could be done safely as you would IMO need 2 sensors for each butterfly to ensure maximum control and safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I have not seen any and doubt it could be done safely as you would IMO need 2 sensors for each butterfly to ensure maximum control and safety Do all the butterflies not run off the one rod though? Would it not be just as safe having 2 sensors on either the 1 butterfly or the rod itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Effectively they all open and close together, although each is independently adjustable for idle air flow by threaded rods. I would have thought a sensor on either end of the main rod would be OK? I wonder if any multi throttle body production cars have FBW, and how they work it? BMW's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 The M3's had one sensor at each end of the rod, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Might well be worth looking at the E46 M3 and the E60 M5 to see how they did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Was mapping today mate??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Must be out enjoying it, look forward to your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Stop drinking beers and update us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Anychance?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Today was just base-mapping guys, no power runs! Car runs, DBW works a treat, car has seen positive boost and sounds fantastic - and quiet on idle. I need to arrange with Hodge to pick it up, then arrange a lift/train, then I'll drive it home and arrange an RR day with the venerable Mr Griffiths I've got a TRD wing to go on, so when that's painted, I'll bring it over with me, and Hodge has said he'll fit it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 But all went well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Why just the base map dude? its not as if you have to run a new engine in, get that boost whacked up:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Why just the base map dude? its not as if you have to run a new engine in, get that boost whacked up:cool: I wasn't there mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Bit of a shitty day all round really. Started off really well, car fired and ran perfectly. No leaks, vet quiet on tickover, idled perfectly. The DBW was just as smooth as a regular cable driven throttle. We took it out to do some road mapping and things went pear shaped from there unfortunately. We were out for about an hour, again the car felt great, apart from Johnnys ridiculously heavy clutch lol. The car saw some positive boost and then game over. The front crank seal blew out. We were extremely lucky to be fair. Ryan asked me to pull over so he could alter a few things and me being Mr. Paronoid went to check the engine bay and say the oil. If I hadn't have pulled over and checked it it would have Been an engine. The pump in the car has done 193,000KM so I guess it was just worn and when it had to work harder than normal it's just gave up. Hopefully next Saturday I'll strip it down and change the pump and seal and we'll be up and running again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 ahh man, chin up though. good job you see the fault when you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 ahh man, chin up though. good job you see the fault when you did Even though it was totally out of my control, I'm still gutted about it all. All was going so well. I suppose with a high Milage car an oil pump change is a must on a big power build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I would always recommend an oil pump change when going single. It's a PITA to do but a necessary evil IMO. Sorry to see the hassles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Pumps getting done next Saturday. Hopefully the car will be ready for Johnny to take home next Sunday or at the latest the following weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sorry to hear that, shitty job an all to change the oil pump, good going if you get it done in the day mate. Id be tempted to pull the lump and rebuild it, i cant see a 200k engine lasting long at 700bhp if im honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sorry to hear that, shitty job an all to change the oil pump, good going if you get it done in the day mate. Id be tempted to pull the lump and rebuild it, i cant see a 200k engine lasting long at 700bhp if im honest. Thanks mate. I'm taking the car up to a friends garage to use the ramp which will make the job a lot easier lol. Hopefully we will get it all stripped and replaced on the Saturday and rebuild all the other parts back on on Sunday. By that time the sealant will be dry on the pump and the sump so the car can be fired up. On the side of rebuilding the engine, that's johnnys call mate. He was talking a 3.4 and billet turbos in a couple of years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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