dangerous brain Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 So first round done then. Initial response. England have some work to do, Ireland didn't inspire as much as I'd hope they would, and Scotland surprised me in their strength against the French. Its all very much in the air now. France is always going to be the bench mark as much as England think they are which is often their undoing because everyone wants to beat them so badly. Ireland will have to man up if they want to stand a chance. Wales will definitely improve across the tournament so they are proper in with a shout. Personally I think that Ireland are my faves if they pull good form. The jocks still don't look like they can field a tournament winning side. FWIW I think the italian side is the most impressive for outright improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Never thought i'd say it but 'mon England. Less chance of us getting the wooden spoon if you hump Italy. England seem to be doing well so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Never thought i'd say it but 'mon England. Less chance of us getting the wooden spoon if you hump Italy. England seem to be doing well so far. wash your mouth out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Wow tense ending in this Italy France game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Wow tense ending in this Italy France game! Bravo Italy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 And a great win for Wales too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 So if England beat Scotland tomorrow we've won, is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Emm not if you get beat by Ireland and Wales win by about a gjillion points against France, but realistically yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 England, Scotland, that was tight. England better not missfire like that against the Irish or there will be no grand slam. All credit to the Scots as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 It could be interesting next week. I can see Ireland pushing England all the way but I am not confident of Wales beating France. The French will be smarting after that defeat yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 It could be interesting next week. I can see Ireland pushing England all the way but I am not confident of Wales beating France. The French will be smarting after that defeat yesterday. How many balls are you going to be playing with that day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 How many balls are you going to be playing with that day? lol. I noticed yesterday before the England game that when discussing the 'wrong ball' incident in the Ireland/Wales game, they've come up with a new word for cheating - 'Gamesmanship'. Apparently it's when you try something you know is against the rules, but if you can get away with it, it's ok. Glad I've got that clear then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 How many balls are you going to be playing with that day? TBH, if the French play to their potential it isn't the balls we have to worry about. We will probably need extra players lol. I noticed yesterday before the England game that when discussing the 'wrong ball' incident in the Ireland/Wales game, they've come up with a new word for cheating - 'Gamesmanship'. Apparently it's when you try something you know is against the rules, but if you can get away with it, it's ok. Glad I've got that clear then. And this from an Irish fan? The team who has taken forward play "gamesmanship" to a new level over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 In all seriousness, I wonder if it was a deliberate attempt at cheating or if it was just a case of not even thinking about it but taking a quick throw in? Anybody who has played sport to a reasonable level will know how involved and focussed you can get and rugby players (forwards especially) are not known for their quick thinking (says he who played upfront ) and so maybe it was just a spur of the moment thing. Don't get me wrong, it should not have been allowed but there again, how many other instances of "gamesmanship" will we see in a game that go unpunished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 What I don't understand is that they went to the camera footage and still allowed that try even though it was blatantly obvious that they had bent the rules with that cheeky quick line-out! Ireland then went and lost themselves the match with 2 seconds to go by not using the extra man they had on the left that they'd spent so much effort developing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 What I don't understand is that they went to the camera footage and still allowed that try even though it was blatantly obvious that they had bent the rules with that cheeky quick line-out! Ireland then went and lost themselves the match with 2 seconds to go by not using the extra man they had on the left that they'd spent so much effort developing I dont think they did though Bry - go to the cameras that is. I heard the Brian O'Driscol interview afterwards and he said that given ll the technology available they still didn't use it and the Ref relied on the advice of the touch judge - whose family are obviously Welsh Dead right on the try thing though. I guess he must have thought that he would try to make the conversion easier - "BIG" mistake IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I dont think they did though Bry - go to the cameras that is. I heard the Brian O'Driscol interview afterwards and he said that given ll the technology available they still didn't use it and the Ref relied on the advice of the touch judge - whose family are obviously Welsh Dead right on the try thing though. I guess he must have thought that he would try to make the conversion easier - "BIG" mistake IMO. Thats exactly what I thought he was doing but matey on the left had enough room to toe it around behind the potential tacklers most of the way to the middle especially had the failed tryster pulled in the tackle as he passed the ball off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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