MaveriK Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I wonder what else he said to get the bullet. Bit of a shock to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 uh? why he get sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I wonder what else he said to get the bullet. Bit of a shock to say the least On Sky News they showed a clip of him that was recorded a while back asking a female to help him "tuck this in" as he was adjusting his shirt. Straw and camels back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Half of us would get locked up or sacked if they went around recording every word we said, everything is too PC these days, it was banter between two good friends. Men and women do it, it's part of life, no one is perfect. Sky should look at how the newspaper managed to get the recordings in the first place. Andy Gray was good at what he did, so silly over something stupid. How many men have been on a plane and when the pilot comes on the loudspeaker and it's a woman and we have thought or said " h i hope she can drive" or "let me off now" just as a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The media and hype has been blown all out of proportion. The young lady in question accepted the apology from Keys and most likely put it down to testosterone induced idiocy. It was a stupid stereotypical rant from a couple of "blokes". It is possible that Andy hasn't apologised for his actions hence the sacking. The guys are in a professional job and should remain professional during the 9-5, a bit of a scaulding would have done IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It says 'new evidence came to light today'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8281445/Andy-Gray-sacked-by-Sky-Sports-following-sexism-row.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 On Sky News they showed a clip of him that was recorded a while back asking a female to help him "tuck this in" as he was adjusting his shirt. Straw and camels back? Over reaction then, or was he just wearing a shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 uh? why he get sacked? I take it louie isn't a footy fan then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Half of us would get locked up or sacked if they went around recording every word we said, everything is too PC these days, it was banter between two good friends. Men and women do it, it's part of life, no one is perfect. Sky should look at how the newspaper managed to get the recordings in the first place. Andy Gray was good at what he did, so silly over something stupid. How many men have been on a plane and when the pilot comes on the loudspeaker and it's a woman and we have thought or said " h i hope she can drive" or "let me off now" just as a joke. I think the problem is they are in a very responsible position, which is why it is more significant when the person in question is watched by millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It says 'new evidence came to light today'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8281445/Andy-Gray-sacked-by-Sky-Sports-following-sexism-row.html That's the clip they showed on Sky News too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I think the problem is they are in a very responsible position, which is why it is more significant when the person in question is watched by millions. So, on that basis would you advocate harsher sentences for high profile people than for us mere mortals who commit the same crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilps Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Andy who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So, on that basis would you advocate harsher sentences for high profile people than for us mere mortals who commit the same crime? Common sense would say no. There isn't a lot of that going around nowadays though, it is just the way of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So, on that basis would you advocate harsher sentences for high profile people than for us mere mortals who commit the same crime? That's another broad statement. Andy Gray holds a position of responsibility in the football world, so he's actions will echo much further than those of the mere fan perhaps. If Andy Gray was done for drink driving, I wouldn't expect him to recieve a harsher sentence than me or you, but in the context of sexism in football, Andy Gray has a lot on his shoulders. I actually believe it runs deeper than just this matter though - perhaps a window of opportunity to remove him anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertwo Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Good. He drinks in my local sometimes, the most arrogant unintelligent man going!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 That's another broad statement. Andy Gray holds a position of responsibility in the football world, so he's actions will echo much further than those of the mere fan perhaps. If Andy Gray was done for drink driving, I wouldn't expect him to recieve a harsher sentence than me or you, but in the context of sexism in football, Andy Gray has a lot on his shoulders. I actually believe it runs deeper than just this matter though - perhaps a window of opportunity to remove him anyway? Care to explain to me (and I am guessing lots of others) why you think someone like Andy Gray should get a harsher sentence - no matter what the crime committed? IMHO, we all should be judged (and therefore sentenced) on an equal basis otherwise the law definitely becomes a mockery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Good. He drinks in my local sometimes, the most arrogant unintelligent man going!! Ah, insider information. Have you spoken to him before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Sorry i have just worked it out, Kenny wins his first game, Wonder goal, Gray gets sacked. What a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Care to explain to me (and I am guessing lots of others) why you think someone like Andy Gray should get a harsher sentence - no matter what the crime committed? IMHO, we all should be judged (and therefore sentenced) on an equal basis otherwise the law definitely becomes a mockery. Care to explain to me where you have got from what I've written that I believe Andy Gray should get a harsher sentence no matter what the crime committed is? You'll find that I said, in response to your sweeping 'words into my mouth' statement, that is not what I think. I'll reiterate that I believe that Andy Gray holds more responsibility when it comes to sexism in football, which is why he perhaps got the sack in this instance. Then I went on to state that I actually think this matter runs deeper than just this sexism issue. I've not once said he 'should' have got the sack, nor have I said he should get a harsher sentence for anything. I was merely trying to provide an explanation of why he perhaps did get the sack and that does have a lot to do with his responsibilities at his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertwo Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ah, insider information. Have you spoken to him before? I have. I think he might actually live in the village I grew up in, but don't know that for sure. I know nothing about football, so only speak to him about general crap - he's just one of those people that annoy you because they keep on breathing. I should add that I am usually a very tolerant person. Alex McLeish also drinks in there on a regular basis. He's a fantastic guy...he calls me "the devil reincarnated", because I apparently look like David Platt from Coronation St..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Time for a change and this is an easier way out for Sky? I don't watch as much footy these days but I can't see some new faces being a bad thing really........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 FAO Matt H My bad - I misread your post. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have. I think he might actually live in the village I grew up in, but don't know that for sure. I know nothing about football, so only speak to him about general crap - he's just one of those people that annoy you because they keep on breathing. I should add that I am usually a very tolerant person. Alex McLeish also drinks in there on a regular basis. He's a fantastic guy...he calls me "the devil reincarnated", because I apparently look like David Platt from Coronation St..! Fair enough, I guess a lack of interest in football (like me) actually helps to gauage a fairer opinion of what he is like as a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Time for a change and this is an easier way out for Sky? I don't watch as much footy these days but I can't see some new faces being a bad thing really........... I think that too. FAO Matt H My bad - I misread your post. Sorry. No probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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