mikeyb10supra Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Does anyone one the forum work in this type of position?? im not to sure what to expect.....im looking for a career change and considering applying for this.... does anyone know how commision works in this type of position and what the hours are like......I dont want to end up in a job that ruins my home and social life any advice from all you IT guys would be greatly appreciated here is the job spec """""""""""" Have a career not just a job Anson McCade are looking for staff for the position of IT Recruitment Consultant. Appropriate consultants must be bright, enthusiastic, quirky, with an ability to think on their feet, but equally important is the ability to listen, be self-critical, have a determined stubborn streak and a desire to work extra hard with the aim of retiring young and loaded. This is a rare opportunity for the right people to get a real chance to succeed within one of the toughest and most rewarding marketplaces around - and you don't even need a relevant career background! You will receive intensive, continual training and benefit from a positive, dynamic and integrated working environment which will facilitate the chance to earn anything up to a quarter of a million a year. It's up to you. Why Anson McCade? Firstly the reason your here! Good solid basic salary £17.5k -£25k ( Neg Higher base depending on experience) no threshold or ceiling on earnings and commission paid up to 40% - (very achievable OTE £50K+ 1st year, £6 Figure year 2 salary) and Money can't buy incentive scheme. We are highly professional yet fun/sociable and supportive team-based working atmosphere, superb career prospects and first-class initial and on-going training. What do we think??? Cheers Mikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 I used to work in recruitment and the experience varies depending on who you work for really (never heard of Anson McCade so I can't comment). My hours used to vary a lot depending on work load, some days it would be a straight 8:30 > 5 day but most of the time I'd find myself in the office until 9, sometimes later if I had an urgent job to fill and wanted to catch and annoy potential candidates while they were trying to relax at home I used to end up taking work home, calling people at the weekend, going in to the office, working on the train... I liked money though, others in the company did the basic job and took home the basic pay. The bonus pay is generally based on how much revenue you bring in for the company, you get a small percentage of the profits you've generated, again this varies from company to company. It's changed a bit since I used to do it and as someone who now works in IT rather than IT recruitment I certainly feel that the personal touch we used to push so hard has now been replaced by magic databases that match keywords to CVs and send automatic emails out - the role of the recruiter seems to have been pushed down to the level of a phone monkey at the bigger companies but some still have staff that know what they are doing and given the basic salary offered in the one you mention I'd say they would expect a fair bit, it's a good base compared to a lot that only offer £10k and then promise the world in bonuses only to fall short due to the greed of managers who skim the cream off for themselves. It's one of those jobs where working hard brings rewards and it can be a huge buzz at times if a little exhausting, I enjoyed the job but the smarm and bullsh1t that surrounds the industry annoyed me so I got out. The main skills you'll need initially are: 1. Use lots of hair gel 2. Wear too much aftershave 3. Learn to tie a huge knot in your tie 4. Call people you've never spoken to mate and pretend you like them. It's easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted June 22, 2005 Author Share Posted June 22, 2005 Wow ....wicked response, I was'nt expecting a detailed response like that.....thanks heaps for the info The hours thing is what I am worried about....the Accountancy firm I work for now like to pile on the work and expect extra long hours from employees......it seems to be a company trait and everyone fally into this pocket of working late just to fit in with the culture....there are a few who break the mould ie me Ive always been a firm believer in a solid 9-5 day maybe coming in slightly earlier to finish on time and being extreemly efficient and aware of time management planning, and also that we get no over time, toil or bonus's so I am reluctant to work over my contracted hours as well!!! I feel efficiency and motivation is lost over a certain time frame ie 7-8 hours should be an efficient period......anything over this, motivation tends to drop as well as enthsiasm. I know as you said if you like money like yourself at that time this does'nt really affect you, but I am a 9-5 kinda guy......get my drift Dont get me wrong I will willingly work over my hours if the incentive is there but if i dont feel appreciated for what I do it kinda makes me not wanna do it! Still thanks for the advice, I will still keep looking, im sure something will come up soon enough Mikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 are you interested in consultancy work? This is the first time I have done it and I am carrying out software testing. To be more tax efficient I have set up my own company and pay myself a wage thats below the threshold for a larger percentage of tax and you can claim expenses which is tax free. Down side is that you can be let go as quickly as you arrive so job security is an issue but if you find a good contract for 12 months you can make good money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Performance related pay is a good thing - too many companies paying fixed salaries will over-work you and try to make out that they have a "work hard, play hard" approach. Pah! It's an excuse to squeeze free work out of people bny making them feel obliged! Most of the time people can get through their work-load in a normal day if they pull their finger out - less chatting, surfing and moaning about how much work they have to do, and how late they are going to have to stay, and presto: clock off at 5pm, ignore the evils from the boss who wants free extra work and get your life back. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted June 22, 2005 Author Share Posted June 22, 2005 Most of the time people can get through their work-load in a normal day if they pull their finger out - less chatting, surfing and moaning about how much work they have to do, and how late they are going to have to stay, and presto: clock off at 5pm, ignore the evils from the boss who wants free extra work and get your life back. Chris Agreed......I bet most people when they look back on there lives when there retired and to old to do all the things they wated to do when they were younger would wish that they had left on time and not stayed that hour later.......if you add up an extra hour each night over a career span of an average person.....it would equal a lot of time wasted when it could have spend doing more interesting things.....like going for a drive in your supe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Well said Chris, my girlfriend has always had to put longer hours in than required and I have told her that either she cant do the work in the right amount of time or she is doing too much. Depending on the role there are going to be exceptions, like for accountancy work things dont add up but you cant find the answer straight away then you are put off track and staff piles up and the same applies to other jobs too. You can still work you nackers off and still get nowhere sometimes but then you have days thats is quiet and can come on this forum to chat!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Working those extra hours allowed me to buy the things that made my free time more enjoyable, depends what you are into I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Good point - that extra hour each day, plus cutting into your lunchbreak and you can easily make up and extra days worth of time in a single week. Six days work for the price of five - a good deal if you can get it (the boss that is). Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted June 22, 2005 Author Share Posted June 22, 2005 Working those extra hours allowed me to buy the things that made my free time more enjoyable, depends what you are into I guess Good point....I guess its each to there own.....its rare to find a job now which pays good money and you can leave on time :thumbdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4CK50N Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 I work in recruitment and rarely get a lunch break, but suppose that is my choice as I would rather work thru and finish earlier (or should I say, nearer my supposed finish time ) As MCanny has said previously it can be very fulfilling, especially when you get someone a job and know that they are thankful, but there is a lot of people that mess you about no end, playing you off against other agencies etc so you can put in a lot of work for no reward!!! Luckily I only work for a small agency, so we do still tend to keep that personal touch, but there are other agencies in my building (my bosses not mine!!!) and there staff turnovers are horrendous. You can watch people age in the 6 months they are there which is quite amusing!! They come in fresh faced and full of beans and then leave with all their stuff in a box looking about 10 years older!! Not trying to put you off, as I love my job, but just going on my experiences etc!!! And as far you Canny I a) dont use hair gel (I use that styling fudge type stuff) b) rarely wear aftershave to work c) just tie my knot in a normal fashion d) have little time for morons, I will be nice with em till they mess me about :D :D Oh and I have still remembered about the meet!!! J4CK50N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 1. Use lots of hair gel 2. Wear too much aftershave 3. Learn to tie a huge knot in your tie 4. Call people you've never spoken to mate and pretend you like them. So that is what TRD3000GT does for a day job *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Well said Chris, my girlfriend has always had to put longer hours in than required and I have told her that either she cant do the work in the right amount of time or she is doing too much. Depending on the role there are going to be exceptions, like for accountancy work things dont add up but you cant find the answer straight away then you are put off track and staff piles up and the same applies to other jobs too. You can still work you nackers off and still get nowhere sometimes but then you have days thats is quiet and can come on this forum to chat!! My contracted hours are 9am to 6 am Monday to Friday, but I also have a clause which states I must work extra hours as performance dictates. Which basically means for the last two-three months I've been starting at 8am and finishing 9-10pm, oh and then working at least 1 day of the weekend. The reason for this is that we simply don't have the manpower to work normal hours. We can't find people with the relevant skills and experience. Oh well.... back to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Well she is in a job that is a set salarly and also flexible hours (government). Contract work has its highs and lows, I have to accept that I will be required to work on the weekends if required and I work long hours but get good money. It could all go pete tong tho and I could get let go like one of my colleagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 So that is what TRD3000GT does for a day job *grin* dont be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 My contracted hours are 9am to 6 am Monday to Friday, BLOODY HELL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 The main skills you'll need initially are: 1. Use lots of hair gel 2. Wear too much aftershave 3. Learn to tie a huge knot in your tie 4. Call people you've never spoken to mate and pretend you like them. It's easy PMSL, I use to work in IT recruitment aswell, and that is so spot on it makes me cringe! Can be very good money (it was to me), can be soul destroying, can end up with a coke habit! If you have a very thick skin and the gift of the gab your ideally suited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Sounds like we worked for the same company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 One company I worked for used to place a toilet seat complete with fresh turd on your desk if you were the worst biller that month:D Mind you if I caught one of my team not on the phone I used to make them stand up all day!! Thing that made me laugh and cry was the amount of young guys thinking it was easy and getting in the viscious circle of " do coke to allow them to sell on the phone, to allow them to earn money to afford the coke, to allow them to sell........." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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