Tricky-Ricky Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 " it is essential to add an anti freeze additive to the water to stop pump damage through freezing. Windscreen washer additive serves this purpose fine " Don't know where you got that from Chris, as most high pressure pumps are recommended not to run ethylene glycol additive's, as it will damage the seals etc used in the pump, mind you some won't even run 100% Methanol either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know of no screen wash additive that uses the paint stripper ethylene glycol. That's the stuff most coolant anti freeze is made of. Most screen wash additive is methanol based. During the recent cold snap 4 five litre tubs of neat concentrate screen wash in the shed froze nearly solid. Watered down it would have been totally solid. A friend had a bill for 280 quid due to his BMW headlamp washers freezing up, despite him using 50 / 50 water and screenwash concentrate mix. It seems the stuff ain't what it used to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 People get all excited about new stuff when really a stock I/C is probably better than an unducted huge FMIC thing with a cheap core from one of the box shifters. Toyota did a superb install on the standard unit and it's extremely efficient as ALL the air entering the stock bumper aperture has to go through, rather than around the intercooler, and the exit path for the hot air is into a low pressure region in the front wheel arch. Bettering the setup is hard, how many people here have properly ducted FMIC's? Deleting the stock rad duct to fit a front mount I/C also compromises the water rad efficiency. It's easy to spend £700 and make the set up worse that stock. Me , Greddy 4ROW with great endtank design, all air through front mouth goes through FMIC, electric fans running 100% behind rad to create as low pressure behind FMIC as possible, fan shroud sealed again rad for maximum fan efficiency, ducting cost me a couple of quid and a day to make. no water temp probs here http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?197330-FMIC-ducting-install&p=2509916&viewfull=1#post2509916 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 That's good, well worth the time and effort!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 That's good, well worth the time and effort!!! Yip, even an idiot could make this in a day with basic tools and a piece of aluminium sheet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 okay so they are poo lol what is the best way to cool inlet temps? Run your engine on Methanol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 chris how much is you water meth kit and what controls it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Yip, even an idiot could make this in a day with basic tools and a piece of aluminium sheet looks good i best grab my tool kit and some tin snips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know of no screen wash additive that uses the paint stripper ethylene glycol. That's the stuff most coolant anti freeze is made of. Most screen wash additive is methanol based. During the recent cold snap 4 five litre tubs of neat concentrate screen wash in the shed froze nearly solid. Watered down it would have been totally solid. A friend had a bill for 280 quid due to his BMW headlamp washers freezing up, despite him using 50 / 50 water and screenwash concentrate mix. It seems the stuff ain't what it used to be! Ahh! thought it did, maybe used to? anyway that doesn't bode well for using methanol to prevent WI tank and lines from freezing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Like the stock airbox then Yes, but probably not as good, not as well made, nor as cheap. I was gonna say that but there was bound to be some detractor who says yeah but you cant use that with a front mount cooler nyeh nyeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 What for? I know they're not allowed for drag racing. CO2 and Nitrous Ic coolers are allowed in drag racing but not any form of liquid spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 As soon as my car is up and running I can get some figures that will show how much difference a CO2 IC spray makes to power, I may well inject a small amount of nitrous into the turbo as well to further cool the housing/charge temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Be interesting to see some temp data comparing a ducted and non ducted fmic. That would surprise people I think. For the sake of a few bits of aluminium get it done and make the most of the part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I was gonna say that but there was bound to be some detractor who says yeah but you cant use that with a front mount cooler nyeh nyeh All the decent branded FMIC kits I know fit around the stock airbox. I know many of the Ebay ones don't as the IC piping fouls on the intake pipe from the airbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 i do still have the stock air box i see a thread when i first got the car saying these air boxes are best up to 500bhp i think it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 i do still have the stock air box i see a thread when i first got the car saying these air boxes are best up to 500bhp i think it was Wes is running a PHR Stage 1 turbo at 592hp with a stock airbox, I think if I built another 550-600hp Supra I would do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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