peter richards Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 my original that ive had for years fell apart a few weeks ago , so i got a toyota blank from e bay , had it cut last week , so went down the old mans house today , thats where the car is , and it doesnt work , it goes into the ignition but wont turn . to look at it it looks spot on , but funny how the shop that cut it said to wifey he couldnt guarantee it will work . any ideas guys ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 my original that ive had for years fell apart a few weeks ago , so i got a toyota blank from e bay , had it cut last week , so went down the old mans house today , thats where the car is , and it doesnt work , it goes into the ignition but wont turn . to look at it it looks spot on , but funny how the shop that cut it said to wifey he couldnt guarantee it will work . any ideas guys ? they wont guarenttee the work as you didnt buy the key blank from the shop The Key may just need a little filing to work properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 hi si , i tried that , only looking at it it should work ,looks the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2soops Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Maybe the old original key was worn and the new ones been cut to the worn shape rather than the right one. Might be that the the worn key and worn ignition still fitted together okay. Either that or the new ones just not quite right. Does it fot in the doors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Your battery's not flat is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 no doesnt fit the doors either , and that barrel should be pretty much new as ive never opened the car with the key , ?? battery if in the fob not one there as my alarm is a separate fob clifford , and the car battery is new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1983 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Was the new key a non transponder key? I remember reading somewhere that the originals have a transponder in them so that they will only start the engine with that set. Might be worth trying to start the car with the new set with the old one close by. Not sure if what I say is correct but I guess it is worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 no i dont think so , all i have left of the old one is the shank , which they supposed to have copied . i managed to start the car today with the old one and a pair of pliers for leverage , might see if i can remove the new one and stick the old one in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lude Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 i had this before when i broke my key, i only had one key for the car & i snapped it in half! took the 2 ends to a keymaker, it didnt work at 1st. then it worked if you applied different pressures & motions as you tried to turn the car over, then eventually this came more easy & in the end it started as new keep playing around with it it may work too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 ok i see what you mean , before i butcher it i might take it back to the shop that cut it and see what they can suggest . i know they said there was no guarantee , but as si said i didnt buy the blank from them , but even if i did it wouldnt of worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) ok i see what you mean , before i butcher it i might take it back to the shop that cut it and see what they can suggest . i know they said there was no guarantee , but as si said i didnt buy the blank from them , but even if i did it wouldnt of worked How did it go? You can always get a black marker pen and apply it to the cut edge all the way round and see which bits wear off the most on insertion and twisting. Might reveal a high spot or two They might look the same but it really takes hardly any inaccuracy to not fit. I wouldn't use pliers either, or you might be looking at a new lock barrel too. Don't force it if it won't fit without lubrication (and the same goes for the key!) Edited January 9, 2011 by Morpheus (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 ok ill try that , i only used the pliers on the old shank to start the car , pita really lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasoup Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 You could always take your broken key to an engineers workshop and get them to weld and end on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 well ill give the marker pen idea a go , and if that doesnt work ill break the new shank out of the new plastic holder and glue in the old shank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Was the new key a non transponder key? I remember reading somewhere that the originals have a transponder in them so that they will only start the engine with that set. Might be worth trying to start the car with the new set with the old one close by. Not sure if what I say is correct but I guess it is worth a try. Supras don't have a transponder.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't think it's because you did not buy the blank from them, I had a key press at work that I wanted more spare keys for the team, I took my key to the store and had 5-8 new keys made up, from blanks that they supplied. 2 did not work, and 2 you had to twist and turn a little to get them to work....the rest were fine. All cut by the same person, there and then using the same original key to cut from. I'm not sure I would be using any glue.....if it were to snap off and you could not get it out.....how much is a new ignition ????? Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 this is the blank i bought http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-NEW-2-BTN-REMOTE-KEY-CASE-CAMRY-COROLLA-RAV4-MR2-/390276257169?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5ade471591 what i thought was to take out the blank and put in the old one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 ok as said, before i cut out the shank i took it back to the shop just now different guy there today he set it back on the machine and the other guy had cut certain ares to deep , so basically fooooked it up , but as i didnt buy the blank there he couldnt help me . so ill remove the shank and glue in the old one , bit of a run around but there you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 ok as said, before i cut out the shank i took it back to the shop just now different guy there today he set it back on the machine and the other guy had cut certain ares to deep , so basically fooooked it up , but as i didnt buy the blank there he couldnt help me . so ill remove the shank and glue in the old one , bit of a run around but there you go Did you get refunded for the botch job that he did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 nope , he did say before he cut it that there was no guarantee as i was supplying the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 nope , he did say before he cut it that there was no guarantee as i was supplying the key I would still argue the case due to the fact that it was his incompetence that caused the issue (cutting too deep), not the key. I can understand why he wouldn't guarantee the key, as the thicknesses could be off, but if it was cut incorrectly then that has to be down to the person that cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 yep see your point and if it was something more expensive i would probably pursue it , but for £4 not werth the hassle of going back into town , i did mention to him that id have to buy another blank now , but he wasnt interested . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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