NOS Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Hi all, I came across this N/A for sale online and before I go to view it I would like your opinions on the price etc. Also, what should I be looking out for specifically if I do decide to view it (i.e. is this model prone to problems etc.)? [i am told that the car has just had a full engine [b]rebuild[/b].] http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1772263 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 NA running at 350bhp? As much as I'd love to think it's possible I'd say dreamer.... And if he's wildly claiming about the power, what else is he hiding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Looks like a nice car, but is expensive for a 5 speed with questionable paint. You could get a 6 speed NA for similar, and it will hold its value better. I'd be suprised if it's had a full engine rebuild, it just isn't financially viable on an NA, with replacement engines available from £100. Edited January 2, 2011 by j_jza80 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 That strut bar looks like a piece of chewing gum streched...! hahhahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/1775130 Surely an NA would get boring after your TT BPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/1775130 Wow that's a nice car....! What a bargain...! But Nos do you think you have the hands for 570bhp...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/1775130 That's my old car but I think it is overpriced by about 50%! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 That's my old car but I think it is overpriced by about 50%! Yup, there's a thread in Off Topic discussing if it's your car, thought you may have seen it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Not a car I would waste my time viewing. The panels on the exterior look a different colour - this may be just the photos or could be evidence of damage/respray. It does say it's be rebuilt from the shell up - why? Why has the engine been rebuilt? I'd want to see evidence that it really does have high lift cams, polished head and other work claimed. Why does it have 'upgraded' injectors, fuel rail and fuel pump - not needed. Has the car been mapped for these changes? 90mm inlet & throttle - looks stock on pics. Denso ignition timing system - what's this? Power claims are complete fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 Regarding the full engine rebuild, I asked the vendor why the engine was rebuilt - I asked him did the engine blow, and his response was, "No. I just rebuilt the engine to give it more power. The engine did not need rebuilding but I did it anyway." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/1775130 That's my old car but I think it is overpriced by about 50%! The power output is exaggerated by 50%. 570hp on stock twins?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 The power output is exaggerated by 50%. 570hp on stock twins?! Maybe a little less than 50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supramkivcork Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Not a car I would waste my time viewing. The panels on the exterior look a different colour - this may be just the photos or could be evidence of damage/respray. It does say it's be rebuilt from the shell up - why? Why has the engine been rebuilt? I'd want to see evidence that it really does have high lift cams, polished head and other work claimed. Why does it have 'upgraded' injectors, fuel rail and fuel pump - not needed. Has the car been mapped for these changes? 90mm inlet & throttle - looks stock on pics. Denso ignition timing system - what's this? Power claims are complete fantasy. His response "the reason it has them is for more fuel to get into the engine for which makes the engine run better and faster and for the bigger throttle body yes it has being remmaped for thememmmm well for one you cant see the throttle in the pics so i dont know where your getting that from...and it those have the 90mm throttle and inlet in it....its a ingtion timing system it tell the coil pack to spark at the perfect time...when your not going ahrd it gives better fuel economy and when you put the boot down it gives you better performance..what evidence do i have i dont have a dyno sheet your man before me didnt have it....he said it was rebuilt from the ground he had receipts but he said hed send them down.... dont have money to put it on dyno hence why its for sale...ders one panel dat is a different color and thats because its a bit faded same with back bumper" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 His response "the reason it has them is for more fuel to get into the engine for which makes the engine run better and faster and for the bigger throttle body yes it has being remmaped for thememmmm well for one you cant see the throttle in the pics so i dont know where your getting that from...and it those have the 90mm throttle and inlet in it....its a ingtion timing system it tell the coil pack to spark at the perfect time...when your not going ahrd it gives better fuel economy and when you put the boot down it gives you better performance..what evidence do i have i dont have a dyno sheet your man before me didnt have it....he said it was rebuilt from the ground he had receipts but he said hed send them down.... dont have money to put it on dyno hence why its for sale...ders one panel dat is a different color and thats because its a bit faded same with back bumper" Woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 LOL,...! Classic..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 oh dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Surely an NA would get boring after your TT BPU. Depends on the driver I suppose. Me and Mrs H have come to the conclusion that we enjoyed driving the NA more than the TT. I personally found the NA easier to control whilst hooning and although the TT will take your breath away when the second turbo comes in, I hardly ever get chance to use it without getting into speeds that will cost me my licence. I expect we will go back to a tidy NA at some point. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supramkivcork Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) Having a bit of banter with this chap now Me: So the 350 bhp is a total guess really ? Non turbo's are 225bhp from the factory, what gave it the extra 125 bhp ? Him: Do u mind me asking who you are and what's ur problem, if u hav no interest in the car y r u botering me Mine: Eh ? I have no problem with you. Just saw the advert on donedeal, said I'd enquire about the car. It's normal to ask questions about a car your interested in. Seems like you can't back up the claims and the advert is a misleading one . Him: I hav sold over forty cars on this site and never once hav I given misleading information Me It is misleading, you are saying the car is running about 350bhp but cant tell me where the extra power is coming from and have no proof it is running that power. The car is supposedly running more than a stock twin turbo Supra , it would take a lot time , money and hassle to get it to that. None of which is in the advert. To me that is misleading. I'm interested in the car if you can prove its power claims. If you cant it shouldnt be in the advert anyway. Doesn't matter if you've sold 5 or 55 cars on the site. I've worked as a salesman in the busiest Toyota dealership in the country for a couple of years so I know myself salesmen are prone to a few white lies. The advert was put up on the Toyota Supra owners club by someone, the advert was laughed at if I'm honest with you. Do you think a load of Supra enthusiasts are wrong or is it you are being misleading ? Edited January 3, 2011 by supramkivcork (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Having a bit of banter with this chap now My response to him: So the 350 bhp is a total guess really ? Non turbo's are 225bhp from the factory, what gave it the extra 125 bhp ? His response: Do u mind me asking who you are and what's ur problem, if u hav no interest in the car y r u botering me I don't see how you can own a car without knowing anything about it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Having a bit of banter with this chap now Me: So the 350 bhp is a total guess really ? Non turbo's are 225bhp from the factory, what gave it the extra 125 bhp ? Him: Do u mind me asking who you are and what's ur problem, if u hav no interest in the car y r u botering me Mine: Eh ? I have no problem with you. Just saw the advert on donedeal, said I'd enquire about the car. It's normal to ask questions about a car your interested in. Seems like you can't back up the claims and the advert is a misleading one . Him: I hav sold over forty cars on this site and never once hav I given misleading information Me It is misleading, you are saying the car is running about 350bhp but cant tell me where the extra power is coming from and have no proof it is running that power. The car is supposedly running more than a stock twin turbo Supra , it would take a lot time , money and hassle to get it to that. None of which is in the advert. To me that is misleading. I'm interested in the car if you can prove its power claims. If you cant it shouldnt be in the advert anyway. Doesn't matter if you've sold 5 or 55 cars on the site. I've worked as a salesman in the busiest Toyota dealership in the country for a couple of years so I know myself salesmen are prone to a few white lies. The advert was put up on the Toyota Supra owners club by someone, the advert was laughed at if I'm honest with you. Do you think a load of Supra enthusiasts are wrong or is it you are being misleading ? Don't hold back now! Think his hoping some kid will read 350bhp and believe it then buy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Don't hold back now! Think his hoping some kid will read 350bhp and believe it then buy it! Haha, going in for the kill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 lol. if douche had pics in the dictionary this guys face would be next to the word lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supramkivcork Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Latest reply "Excuse me for a moment, you say ur a Toyota salesman then you should know a stock supra mk 4 is 210 bhp, I have already told you it has ugraded fuel injectors and throttle bodys, and ports and polished. And ask if I put a super charger on it she could put out up too 500 bhp" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Latest reply "Excuse me for a moment, you say ur a Toyota salesman then you should know a stock supra mk 4 is 210 bhp, I have already told you it has ugraded fuel injectors and throttle bodys, and ports and polished. And ask if I put a super charger on it she could put out up too 500 bhp" Haha what even the TT model. Have some fun & ask him if his talking about the JSpec TT & see if he replies with 276bhp which means his most likely looking up on Google! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ask if it's a V6... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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