Why do Non-Religious People Celebrate Christmas?

[nasoup]

Another reason that people will always celebrate xmas even without Christianity is because the Retailers won't have it any other way so will allways bombard us with xmas adds knowing that there will always be a nice profit to be made at this time of year.

[jazz1]

Id like to ask as why does science make you laugh?

 

Well they think they know everything yet they still discover new things. It's amazing how bibles can state the existence of other inelligent life, more planets, stars etc. Scientist have only now started to discover now, what's already been sated in the bible.

 

The Bible(2,000–3,000 years ago)

The earth is a sphere (Isaiah 40:22).Science of that time=the earth is flat

The Bible

Innumerable stars (Jeremiah 33:22).Science then=1,400 stars

Science now=Innumerable stars.

 

The earth floats free in space(Job 26:7)---Job was written 4000 years ago. No one knew this fact 4000 years ago.

Creation is made of particle, indiscernible to our eyes(atoms, molecules, electrons,.......)(Hebrews 11:3)--- Not until the 19th century was that known.

There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean(Jonah 2:5,6)---This was discovered in the last century.

Blood is the source of life and health(Leviticus 17:11,14)---Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled" and many died as a result(e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that "the life of the flesh is in the blood" long before science understood it's function.

Our bodies are made of the dust of the ground(Genesis 2:7;3:19)----Scientists have discovered that the human body is comprised of 28 trace elements, all of which are found in the earth.

The universe had a beginning(Genesis 1:1; Hebrews 1:10-12)---Starting with the studies of Albert Einstein in the early 1900's, science has confirmed the biblical view that the universe had a beginning. When the bible was written most people believed that the universe was eternal. Science has proven them wrong but the bible was correct.

The earth is a sphere(Isaiah 40:22)---At the time when many thought the earth was flat, the bible told us that the earth is spherical. Incidently, for those who call christians 'flat earthers', that verse is 2700 years

old.

Scripture assumes a revolving spherical earth(Luke 17:34-36)----Jesus said that at his return some would be asleep at night while others would be working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth with day and night occurring simultaneously.

Light can be divided(Job 38:24)---Sir Isaac Newton studied light and discovered that white light is made of 7 colors, which can be parted and then recombined. Science confirmed this 400 years ago, The Bible declared this 4000 years ago.

The continents were created as one large land mass(Genesis 1:9,10)---Many geologists agree that the earth was originally one super continent.

Hydrological cycle described(Job 36:27,28)---About4000 years ago the bible declared that God "draws up drops of water which distills as rain from the mist which the clouds drop down and pour abundantly on man". The ancients observed mighty rivers flowing into the ocean, but they could not conceive why the sea level never rose.. Though they observed rainfall they had only quaint theories as to it's origin. Meteorologists now understand that the hydrological cycle consists of evaporation, atmospheric transportation,distillation and precipitation.

Circumcision on the 8th day is ideal(Genesis 17:12)---Medical science has discovered that the blood clotting chemical Prothrombin peaks in a newborn on the 8th day. This is therefore, the safest day to circumcise a baby. If you do it before that he'll bleed to death. How did Moses know that?

The universe is expanding(Job9:8,Isaiah42:5,Je... 51:15,Zechariah12:1 and other verses)---Seventeen times in the Old Testament it says that "God is stretching the heavens". During the 20th century most scientists(including Einstein) believed the universe was static. Others believed it should have collapsed due to gravity. Then in 1929 astronomer Edwin Hubble showed distant galaxies were receding from the earth and the further away they were, the faster they were moving. This discovery revolutionized the field of astronomy. Einstein admitted his mistake and today most astronomers agree with what the creator told us thousands of years ago--the universe is expanding.

Light travels in a path(Job 38:19)--- Light is said to have a "way"{Hebrew:derek, literally a traveled path or road]. Until the 17th century it was believed that light was transmitted instantaneously. We now know that light is a form of energy that travel at 186,000 miles per second in a straight line. Indeed, there is a way of light.

Air has weight(Job 28:25)--- It was once thought that air was weightless. Yet 4000 years ago Job declared that God established "a weight for the wind".

Ocean currents anticipated(Psalms 8:8)----About 3000 years ago the bible describles the "paths of the sea". In the 19th century Mathew Maury...the father of oceanography, after reading Psalms chapter 8, researched and discovered ocean currents that follow specific paths through the seas.

 

Contrary to all the gibberish you hear in todays secular humanist public schools about how we used to believe a lot of myths in the bible and then science came along and proved the bible wrong.....on the contrary, the bible was way ahead of science. Even though the bible is not a scientific book.

[monsween]

So do you believe that all science is giberish then?

[Charlotte]

I don't understand what's wrong with jazz asking the question if he's genuinely interested. I don't know why people get married in a church or get their children christened when they don't practise christianity either.

[Scoboblio]

I like that video where two die hard Christians argue that life couldn't have started without divine intervention, because no-one's found new life in peanut butter jars yet. Fantastic stuff.

[Scoboblio]

As for the original question, I celebrate Christmas because it's a great get together with friends and family, good food, good drink and a great way to reflect on the highs and the lows of the year.

[jazz1]

So do you believe that all science is giberish then?

 

Not all, but they are never always right, I bet in another 20 years they will discover other life.

[jazz1]

I don't understand what's wrong with jazz asking the question if he's genuinely interested. I don't know why people get married or get their children christened when they don't practise christianity either.

 

Thanks, valid point you have I guess it's to follow society even if some don't beleive or follow, I'm not Christian but I still beleive in jesus.

[Guigsy]

The bible also says some complete gibberish. Some guy whose name I forgot lived 900 years... WTF. It's all stories and heresy. I'm surprised jack and Jill are not in there

 

Science these days is based on repeatable evidence. In the past it was theory. Theory isn't science till you prove it.

 

I was not raised Christian. I did go to a Christian school where we did RE most days. Bible readings and hymns every day in assembly. Xmas is a no religion zone In our house and my parents house. No nativity scene. No little baby jesus or god everywhere you look. No angel on the tree. The only reason there is a star is because it looks nice. We don't say grace and never will. For most people Xmas is tradition and that's it. An excuse to get presents eat food and see family. Nothing more.

 

One fact I like (think of the 10 commandments)

75% of Americans are Christian, 10% are atheist.

75% of prisoners in the USA are Christian. 0.2% are atheist.

[mistertwo]

Well they think they know everything yet they still discover new things. It's amazing how bibles can state the existence of other inelligent life, more planets, stars etc. Scientist have only now started to discover now, what's already been sated in the bible.

 

I'm yet to meet a scientist who thinks he knows everything, Jazz - unlike any evangelist nut job, Christian or otherwise I might add.

 

I find the second part of your comment the most interesting one, however, "scientists now are only starting to discover what is written in the Bible". This is a very bold statement indeed, and I fail to accept your copied and pasted list of (mostly) inaccurate (contextually) quotes as evidence at all.

 

...on the contrary, the bible was way ahead of science. Even though the bible is not a scientific book.

 

So, that's it then! The answer we've all been looking for! The Bible is the be all and end all of all answers we could possibly need - screw funding for finding a cure for cancer as it's probably hidden in the magic book somewhere, right?

 

But what about a Muslim? Why should he accept that your God's book is better than his God's book? Or a Jew even? Why do they lose the right to contest that their book is the superior one (even though some of it comes from the same sources)? I think you see where I'm going with this.

 

At what point does this boil down to nothing more than petty, circumstancial nonsense?

[CraigGilchrist]

What do you mean "Celebrate Christmas"? I don't go to church and sing hymns or anything like that, but I spend time with my family, have a big dinner, give gifts. There is 0% religion involved in what I do at this time of year, but practically the whole country is shut down, so what else to do?

 

And your pile of scripture above? Unlike the writers of the bible, scientists are burdened with proof. If you research most of what you've stated you'll see you're quite wrong. Go read about Pythagoras to start with, who predates the book of Job by thousands of years, and his theory of a spherical earth that was later proven by science.

[Scoboblio]

You talk about science like it's an entity with it's own thoughts, feelings etc which constantly changes its mind. I've always thought of science as a mindset, a way of doing things and thinking objectively.

 

I don't understand why some people seem to hold a view that 'science' is a single set of beliefs that conflict with religion - there are as many conflicts within scientific views as there are within religious ones.

[Guigsy]

I got married. It wasn't in a church. There was no hymns or prayer or bible readings. It was s symbol of everlasting commitment and love. The paperwork also proves handy. We both dislike religion so why have any elements of it in our day?

[kill1308]

I'm not religious, so I don't celebrate Christmas by going to church or thinking about some dude called Jesus..... I do however exchange presents with family and not go into work because it's tradition. It's not seen as a religious holiday in our house.

[RedM]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100103164951AAJ50hM

 

That's where Jazz got his long post from.

[Max Headroom]

Christmas is not the birthdate of the babeee jezuz! It was hijacked from the pagans. Christmas is as religious as my left foot. We all celebrate Christmas in some way, there are going top be the highly religious folk who follow the ceremony blindly and those that dont! Christmas now is a commercial free for all to get you to part with as much money as humanly possible.

[RedM]

I liken Christmas to the American holiday of Thanksgiving. Plenty of food and time spent with loved ones. So much better than that religious mumbo-jumbo.

[Branners]

so what would you expect people to do if they do not celebrate Christmas? Just try to ignore the whole thing, ask to go in to work on a bank holiday and when people give them presents say that they have chosen not to participate and can they take their presents back please? Why do people go to weddings or birthday parties when they dont really know the person all that well? They feel obliged and also like a good party.

 

In life you have to participate, otherwise you may as well be a hermit and hide in a cave.

[jazz1]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100103164951AAJ50hM

 

That's where Jazz got his long post from.

Lol did I state I wrote it? No.

[monsween]

Everything on the internet isnt true. And those extracts are picked specifically such that they can be likened to modern day discoveries.

[jazz1]

Still though some interesting stuff, it would be amazing to discover another life form in our universe.

[neo2810]

I was brought up, kicking and screaming as a Catholic child, and I assure you there is nothing sacred about getting pulled out of bed at midnight to attend an hour of some old chap telling me how I'm going to hell if I don't be nice to others.

As soon as I was old enough, I cast aside the tainted mantle of Catholisism in favour of a much less biased Agnostic outlook and although I don't rule out there being a divine level, Christmas is purely a commercial exercise and good excuse to celebrate (spelt g-e-t-d-r-u-n-k) with family.

[RedM]

Lol did I state I wrote it? No.

 

You didn't need to.

[RedM]

Still though some interesting stuff, it would be amazing to discover another life form in our universe.

 

Scientists discover new life here on Earth all the time. However, as you scoff at science I guess you won't be happy until 'God' provides you with something different.

[jazz1]

Scientists discover new life here on Earth all the time. However, as you scoff at science I guess you won't be happy until 'God' provides you with something different.

 

Off course I won't, I'm more Interested to know what the universe holds. I guess you however, would not be happy until you find happyness.