trinitom Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 can anyone tell me where i can find a 73mm spigot rings to fit my volk wheels? i did search on ebay, but only found plastic ones or wrong sizes. thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Plastic ones are fine bud. You could have some made up if you absolutely MUST have aluminium. Makes no odds though as regardless of what some people would make you believe, the spigot isn't load bearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinitom Posted December 18, 2010 Author Share Posted December 18, 2010 Plastic ones are fine bud. You could have some made up if you absolutely MUST have aluminium. Makes no odds though as regardless of what some people would make you believe, the spigot isn't load bearing thanks mate, in that case i'll go for the plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Dangerous piffle. Of course it's load bearing. Wheel bolts or studs are designed to work in tension, not shear. Show me any OE wheel fitment where the wheel counterbore is not a direct snug fit on the nose of the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Dangerous piffle. Of course it's load bearing. Wheel bolts or studs are designed to work in tension, not shear. Show me any OE wheel fitment where the wheel counterbore is not a direct snug fit on the nose of the hub. Who said anything about shear force Chris? It's friction that keeps the wheel in place. This discussion has been done to the death, the numbers don't lie. The spigot is for centering the wheel, the friction between the hub face and rear of the wheel keeps it in place. If the spigot was for load it would be a lot deeper than 5-10mm and it wouldn't be 5mm thick, it would be solid. It would take next to no force to shear off the spigot of the hub if there was no friction force at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 The friction forces stop the wheel rotating relative to the hub, all shock loads from potholes and bumps are not designed to be put in shear through the bolts or studs, but though the nose of the ub via the wheels counterbore. You say it's only 10 mm long and hollow. Let's say it has a wall thickness of 1/8 inch (it's probably a lot more). Shearing a 1/8 wall tube of say 60 mm diameter is extremely difficult, it would laugh at the suspension / wheel loadings. It really is wrong to use a deformable spigot ring, or none at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgeer Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Dangerous piffle. Of course it's load bearing. Wheel bolts or studs are designed to work in tension, not shear. Show me any OE wheel fitment where the wheel counterbore is not a direct snug fit on the nose of the hub. Who said anything about shear force Chris? It's friction that keeps the wheel in place. This discussion has been done to the death, the numbers don't lie. The spigot is for centering the wheel, the friction between the hub face and rear of the wheel keeps it in place. If the spigot was for load it would be a lot deeper than 5-10mm and it wouldn't be 5mm thick, it would be solid. It would take next to no force to shear off the spigot of the hub if there was no friction force at work. Oh no, here we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinitom Posted December 18, 2010 Author Share Posted December 18, 2010 to late now, plastic ones on the way. i'll order metal ones when i remove the wheels again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 To be fair, I owned a small 1300cc car, and put wheels with a postitive offset on, which had a centrebore larger than standard. It was fine for about 2 years, until I hit a deep pothole and broke three of the studs I also believed what Scott said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiFlash Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Where can you buy metal spigot rings from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgeer Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Where can you buy metal spigot rings from? I got mine made from this company on ebay, perfect fit, never been any problems, I don't know if they are still trading though? http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/rimsntyres/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) Proper fitting plastic spigot rings are acceptable in my opinion. I wouldn't say they're purely just for centering the wheel, I wouldn't be happy driving the car without them. Performance Alloys sell aluminium spigot rings. £8.25 each. Edited December 18, 2010 by merckx (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 For what it costs to get a set made in st/st or aluminium why wouldnt you fit them ? even if their a 1off custom job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiFlash Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I got mine made from this company on ebay, perfect fit, never been any problems, I don't know if they are still trading though? http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/rimsntyres/ Thanks for that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I might have a set of 61 to 73 rings in my parts storage, let me have a look. FWIW Ive had a car that had plastic rings fitted, they cracked and started to break up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) I might have a set of 61 to 73 rings in my parts storage, let me have a look. FWIW Ive had a car that had plastic rings fitted, they cracked and started to break up. Arent they 60.1 on a mkiv ? http://www.performancealloys.com list both plastic and aluminium spigot rings £33 for aluminium so really there is no excuse not to have them. Edited December 19, 2010 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Yes they are, sorry I meant 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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