Swampy442 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 If the complete unit was supplied, engine, loom, ECU, mounts, pipework, gearbox, everything, would it be a straight forward swap? It would be a pre VVTI engine. Im looking at getting another car for parts, and whipping the engine out to get some money back, logical place to put it up would be here TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Loom is to short, You will need a supra sump and i think the water pump is different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Of course the water pump is, I forgot that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 IIRC, mounts/loom/downpipe/waterpump/fan/sump are different between Supra and Aristo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Lol so its pretty much a non starter unless its a bare engine and even then thats touch and go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 It'll sell mate, there's a few NA-TT conversions running Aristo engines, also worth thinking about Driftworks as there are lots of conversions possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Mate do a search, I've done 2 aristo engines in supras and there's a world of stuff that's different. I did a thread with all variants. Off the top of my head you will need to change:- Upper sump Lower sump Oil level sensor Engine mount brackets Water pump Throttle body Plenum Engine Loom Y-piece on turbo pipes is different but can be used. Turbo oil drain follows a slightly different path, so may need to use the supra 1 to match the upper sump. Apart from this it fits :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 If it was for an NA-TT you could drill the NA sump for the oil return... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Certainly could mate. I would say the main issue is the loom. It's TOTALLY different and finding a TT loom is proving pretty damn hard these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 My looms are my pension, the way things are going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) My looms are my pension, the way things are going Your not wrong there chris. Hold on to them until times are harder mate. Edited December 15, 2010 by hodge (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Replace "hard", with harDER please Just had the leccie bill.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Replace "hard", with harDER please Just had the leccie bill.... Sorry chris, post edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Mate do a search, I've done 2 aristo engines in supras and there's a world of stuff that's different. I did a thread with all variants. Off the top of my head you will need to change:- Upper sump Lower sump Oil level sensor Engine mount brackets Water pump Throttle body Plenum Engine Loom Y-piece on turbo pipes is different but can be used. Turbo oil drain follows a slightly different path, so may need to use the supra 1 to match the upper sump. Apart from this it fits :-) So if you have a whole engine with all the Upper sump Lower sump Oil level sensor Engine mount brackets Water pump Throttle body Plenum attached (Aristo) You dont have to bother with them? Could i use the fan off my N/a engine? and poss the water pump? (Any bits swapable?) Edited December 15, 2010 by Blackie (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 N/A to TT and vice versa water pump swaps don't work, mounting bolt spacing is different, so is impeller. I wouldn't worry about the oil level sensor, they are flaky and not to be trusted. Just plate the hole off. You need to swap the other lower end stuff to get it in the subframe. It REALLY is easier to sell and buy a TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Everything on that list must be taken from the supra engine and fitted to the aristo engine or it won't fit. The loom is totally different and I mean totally. Even the ECU multiplug is different. I've got an aristo loom in the shed ready to go to the tip. I think there's a guy in the states who mods an aristo loom with an N/A loom to fit a supra but can't imagine it's cheap. The plenum has no brake booster pipe on top. The trac stepper motor on the TB is totally different to a supra but both of the above could be modded to fit. The water pump has a PAS cooler running through it. Engine mount brackets are way too small cos an aristo bay is much narrower than a supra. Upper and lower sump is the wrong round but you could mod N/A sumps to fit. Igniter bracket is different. Oil level sensor has a different connector to a supra god knows why so does the water temp sensor. Y-piece turbo pipe has the recurc valve bolted direct to the pipe but a supra fits to a hose. This would be fine if you don't run a BOV or you buy a specific BOV for an Aristo. Turbo oil drain follow a different path due to the sump so I'd advise use the supra ones or mod the aristo pipes to fit. I THINK that's it. If anyone needs any advice on this don't hesitate to p.m me. The conversion looks s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Ah just remembered the waterpump housing is totally different too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Matt Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Which one is which? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 . It REALLY is easier to sell and buy a TT Not when you have spent as much as i have getting it to look how i wanted it Chris Everything on that list must be taken from the supra engine and fitted to the aristo engine or it won't fit. The loom is totally different and I mean totally. Even the ECU multiplug is different. I've got an aristo loom in the shed ready to go to the tip. I think there's a guy in the states who mods an aristo loom with an N/A loom to fit a supra but can't imagine it's cheap. The plenum has no brake booster pipe on top. The trac stepper motor on the TB is totally different to a supra but both of the above could be modded to fit. The water pump has a PAS cooler running through it. Engine mount brackets are way too small cos an aristo bay is much narrower than a supra. Upper and lower sump is the wrong round but you could mod N/A sumps to fit. Igniter bracket is different. Oil level sensor has a different connector to a supra god knows why so does the water temp sensor. Y-piece turbo pipe has the recurc valve bolted direct to the pipe but a supra fits to a hose. This would be fine if you don't run a BOV or you buy a specific BOV for an Aristo. Turbo oil drain follow a different path due to the sump so I'd advise use the supra ones or mod the aristo pipes to fit. I THINK that's it. If anyone needs any advice on this don't hesitate to p.m me. The conversion looks s Cheers chap, I will pm if i need any more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 No problemmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Ah just remembered the waterpump housing is totally different too. Yeah the Aristo has a hydraulic pump for the cooling fan incorporated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 However, if you consider that you would fit a new water pump if you were transplanting a used Supra TT engine (you would, wouldn't you? )... Could the N/A engine mounts be used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 However, if you consider that you would fit a new water pump if you were transplanting a used Supra TT engine (you would, wouldn't you? )... Could the N/A engine mounts be used? Because the Aristo engine i have has the water pump and and every thing on and my N/a doesent have the power steering cooler running through it im guessing i could just block them up? the N/a mounts i guess could be used as its the same block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 What I meant was... The Aristo has a double pump - one part is the water pump, and the other part is the hydraulic pump for the cooling fan. You can substitute a complete Supra TT water pump for the complete Aristo TT water pump. Since you'd want to replace the pump anyway, even on a Supra engine, it's not a huge extra expense when you have to replace it on an Aristo engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 What I meant was... The Aristo has a double pump - one part is the water pump, and the other part is the hydraulic pump for the cooling fan. You can substitute a complete Supra TT water pump for the complete Aristo TT water pump. Since you'd want to replace the pump anyway, even on a Supra engine, it's not a huge extra expense when you have to replace it on an Aristo engine. im prob missing something here but why would you need a hydraulic pump for a cooling fan? I was just going to bung up the hydraulic pipes and keep the Aristo water pump on the Aristo engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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