Guest Joshua Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I have been working with Titan Motorsports to develop an all new control arm setup for my car. They have just about completed the R&D on the front and rear upper control arms and have created a rear toe link adjustment similar to the Porsche GT3 style control arm in the rear. The remaining factory control arms all have custom fabricated delrin bushings. The F & R upper control arms use spherical bearings at the end of the wish bones to make the arms longer or shorter which will provide camber (and caster in the front) adjustment, eliminating the use of the OEM eccentric bolts to make adjustment. The really trick part on these is the use of Riley Technologies camber adjusters from the Daytona prototype cars. This enables making camber adjustments in a matter of a few minutes that will NOT affect the toe settings at all. So based on pyrometer readings, a few turns of the adjuster makes the camber adjustment… For anyone who has done their own alignment on a Supra, you well know how long it can take to set the rear camber and toe. The rear uses 2 eccentric bolts to adjust both of these aspects and those bolts have to be torqued to 134 ft/lbs, which means that when you are setting toe to a 32nd of an inch, you have to slightly overshoot your target so that when you torque the bolt it brings it to where you want your setting. In the past this has literally taken me hours of back and forth some times to get it perfect. With the toe link adjuster, once the camber is set from the upper control arm, it is just a matter of turning the barrel adjuster and setting the toe…nice and easy and VERY precise. One of the issues I was having repeatedly was the failure of the front lower control arm bushing on the right side of the car. We think we traced the problem to the excessive heat in that area, as the turbo, wastegate, and downpipe are there and I am using a greddy wastegate the has the small dump tube to the atmosphere right there as well. With the delrin, we don’t expect any more issues. There was (and on the front upper control arms still going) a lot of R & D that Titan did, I know I am leaving out a lot of the finer details, but Wes from Titan can fill in the gaps… Pics… Front Upper Control Arms: Rear Upper Control Arms: Rear Toe Link Adjusters: Work In Progress on the Delrin Busings (before the centers are drilled and metal sleeves added): http://site.titanmotorsports.com/images/JBarnes/10-28-10/Supra-Cage-105.JPG . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 cool , they look nifty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Indeed - they look very tasty. Don't know enough about suspension to comment, but I look forward to the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueangel Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 nice so will these provide more adjustment than the standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I dont know why someone in the UK hasnt done something similar, they look nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) What are you doing with the lower arms as thats where all the camber adjustment is done on a stock wishboned car. Is there any pitfall to swapping the camber adjustment from below the hub to above it ? How long rose joints will last on a daily driver would be my concern Edited November 17, 2010 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Ikeya do these but their quite expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nic Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Ikeya do these but their quite expensive. mike_mcevoy has the Ikeya Formula ones on his car, yeah not cheap, they'd be on my wish list if I still had my car. http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/ja/car_type/images/toyota/t-fua2.gif http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/ja/car_type/images/toyota/new/t-flow_80_1.jpg http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/ja/car_type/images/toyota/t-rua8030.gif http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/ja/car_type/images/toyota/new/t-rlow_80_1.jpg http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/ja/car_type/images/toyota/new/t-rtoe_1.jpg http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/ja/car_type/images/toyota/new/t-rtradj_30_1.jpg http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/ja/car_type/images/toyota/new/t-pbush_30st_1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joshua Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What are you doing with the lower arms as thats where all the camber adjustment is done on a stock wishboned car. Is there any pitfall to swapping the camber adjustment from below the hub to above it ? How long rose joints will last on a daily driver would be my concern The eccentric bolts for the lower OEM control arms are maxed out to give me the widest track possible. What the camber adjustment at the end of the upper control arm does is make it very easy to adjust camber when I am at the track without affecting toe and or caster. It is also so much easier to just loosen a jam nut and twist a ratchet as opposed to getting under the car to adjust eccentric bolts and then re-torque them. Toyota’s torque spec for those bolts is 166 ft/lbs (226 N m) per the FSM, which is a lot to do on your back when the car in on jack stands /vbb/images/smilies/bbcode_shock.gif . There is no pitfall to adjusting it at the new location...just benefits . The rose joints will have a service life that needs to be planned for replacing...it would depend on mileage and type of driving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Will my teeth still stay in with these fitted ? some of our roads you would call farmland-lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What sort of prices are we looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joshua Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Will my teeth still stay in with these fitted ? some of our roads you would call farmland-lol Not sure...I have 1300 lbs/in front springs and 950 lb/in rears and: Titan Motorsports solid rear subframe mounts Titan Motorsports solid differential ear mounts Titan Motorsports solid differential mounts Titan Motorsports solid rear subframe mounts My car can hit a bump and make a radio station skip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joshua Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What sort of prices are we looking at? Prices are quite reasonable for the components and engineering...contact [email protected] he can take care of anyone that is interested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joshua Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Here are a few track pictures of my car and a few in-car videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Here are a few track pictures of my car and a few in-car videos It's almost cocking it's leg on this pic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nero Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 We've been thrilled to be a part of your project, each time the car comes in its another evolution in its sucess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Nice work What wheel and tyre sizes are you running there on the track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joshua Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Nice work What wheel and tyre sizes are you running there on the track? CCW Cosair C14 (black) 18X10 front 18X11 rear CCW Cosair C14 (grey) 18x10 front 18X12 rear CCW Classics 2 (titanium) 18X10 front 17X11.5 rear Hoosier R6 285/30/18 front 315/30/18 or 315/35/17 rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joshua Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 This is a list of the major mods on my car: Engine\Drivetrain: GT35R dual ball bearing turbo Greedy tubular exhaust manifold (Swain Tech White Lightning exhaust coating) Custom Titan Motorsports intercooler piping HKS GTR front mount intercooler Tilton Triple Disc carbon/carbon clutch (9lb flywheel) TRD differential AEM standalone engine management HKS twin power ignition Titan Motorsports custom fuel system (850cc injectors) Fluidyne radiator, oil cooler, and power steering cooler Dual HKS super sequential blow-off Valve Titan Motorsports dampened crank pulley Custom downpipe Greddy racing titanium exhaust ThermoTec exhaust wrapping on header and downpipe Boost Logic turbo blanket Brakes: Castrol SRF brake fluid Front - StopTech 355mm big brakes StopTech braided stainless steel flexible lines Hawk DTC70 brake pads Custom cooling ducts Rear – stock calipers and rotors Hawk Blue brake pads TRD braided stainless steel flexible lines Suspension: Moton 3 way adjustable dampners Hypercoil springs 1300lb front 950lb rear TMS adjustable front sway bar (NO rear sway bar) JIC Magic adjustable front upper control arms Custom Titan Motorsports solid lower front control arm bushings Front and rear Cusco shock tower braces Titan Motorsports solid rear subframe mounts Titan Motorsports solid differential ear mounts Titan Motorsports solid differential mounts Titan Motorsports solid rear subframe mounts R2 Racing control arm bushings in rear CCW Cosair C14 (black) 18X10 front 18X11 rear CCW Cosair C14 (grey) 18x10 front 18X12 rear CCW Classics 2 (titanium) 18X10 front 17X11.5 rear Hoosier R6 285/30/18 front 315/30/18 or 315/35/17 rear ARP wheel studs Data/Video: Traqmate Complete Integrated ChaseCam (in car) HD Go-Pro Hero (bumper cam) Saftey: Grand-Am Spec Roll Cage SPA Techniques 6 point fire suppression system (ATFF) Schroth Profi II Hans 6 point harnesses Sparco EVO II seats Moroso battery box in rear (Odyssey PC680 14lb battery) Misc: SPA Techniques sequential shift lift FJO wideband air fuel ratio gage Greddy boost pressure and EGT gauges VS-Billet camcorder roll bar mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 This is a list of the major mods on my car: Great spec, similar engine wise to my old girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Great spec, similar engine wise to my old girl. Similar to my old one too. You must have the smallest turbo on a single Supra in the US! I bet it's fantastic to drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 They look tasty, thats the only thing left to do on my own car, I've got Ikeya arms but with the stock upper arms but with poly bushes. As a matter of interest how comes you disconnected the rear ARB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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