Shadow Beast Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 What about respect for the millions of foreigner's that 'we' have killed for no good reason, like the mindless, hypercritical thugs that us and The U.S. have become in the eyes of every other nation? One of "Our Boys" dies and it's headline news for a week whilst we drop cluster bombs on villages that are the same size and colour as yellow food packets so that children lose their feet looking for food. We are the world's biggest hypercrits. It's a testament to the courage and grace of Muslims (though not just them by any means), that you don't have real terrorism in this country on a daily basis. You can't have a war if no-one turns up and the sooner everyone figures that out the better. Personally I find the OP's lack of discipline and English language skills somewhat more offensive and frankly, quite disturbing after 10 or 11 years of schooling. People are easy to manipulate when they don't think for themselves and you're being told what to think and how to REACT. Try to imagine why someone does something that you disagree with instead of judging them unfit to breathe the same air. My Grandfather didn't survive D' Day to defend a country where people can't even be bothered to learn their own language. Most Asians on here have better English than the English. What are you waffling on about? when ever have you seen a food parcel the same size as a cluster bomb? food packets are not 8 inches long and 2 inches round, oh it has Bomb written on it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 As a muslim, I feel that same as almost everyone else on this forum! The so called "Poppey Burners" are just uneducated tw4ts that should be exported out of here! I'm so happy to read that non-muslims understand that this is a minority of people who go against everything that Islam stands for and not "All Muslims". At the end of the day, just having a 2 minute silence for the people who passed away is absolutely nothing in return for what those people have done for this country/world but atleast its a sign of respect. As mentioned by Abz, its one of the biggest things in Islam to respect others. How is poppy burning going to solve anything? Just pure stupidity! Saq Good post and I am glad it came from someone who is Muslim , I ain't really that bothered what anyone thinks as long as they keep it to them selves but breaking the 2 mins silence and the poppy burning kinda oversteps the mark with me, we let them do there thing they should let us do our thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diematrosen Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 What are you waffling on about? when ever have you seen a food parcel the same size as a cluster bomb? food packets are not 8 inches long and 2 inches round, oh it has Bomb written on it as well. This I guess http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/monitoring/media_reports/1624787.stm oh it has Bomb written on it as well. They do tend to be dropped on non english speaking regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Beast Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Yeh but further down if you read it, it also points out that the food parcels are rectangular and the bomblets are cylindrical, its like comparing a corn of a cob to a yellow pages (size and dimension wise). Yes they speak different language but they understand the word bomb, trust me on that one, the kids in those parts of the world are very knowledgeable towards these type of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Mosque-protest-is-condemned.6624966.jp Likewise, it's a small minority of people (in this case the EDL) causing trouble. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-11752757 Yeah saw it on the news eventually, it was football fans apparently - that explains it then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 What happened was an absolute disgrace, although I do feel that we should not have given them so much press, that is exactly what they wanted. But then again, people needed to know about it... difficult one to handle I think, I'm not sure what I think would have been best. I've been hearing various things in my neck of the woods, planned attacks on mosques in retaliation, Muslims getting beaten up etc... As a non Muslim, I find these kind of actions just as disgusting as what those religious extremists did, I just can't believe in this day and age that people would persecute the whole of the Muslim community because of what a few nut jobs did in on remembrance day, but I guess we have our own extremists too. I think a lot of the problem comes from our own government in how they handle these issues... people would probably not feel the need to take matters into their own hands if the authorities dealt with these religious extremists properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 What happened was an absolute disgrace, although I do feel that we should not have given them so much press, that is exactly what they wanted. But then again, people needed to know about it... difficult one to handle I think, I'm not sure what I think would have been best. I've been hearing various things in my neck of the woods, planned attacks on mosques in retaliation, Muslims getting beaten up etc... As a non Muslim, I find these kind of actions just as disgusting as what those religious extremists did, I just can't believe in this day and age that people would persecute the whole of the Muslim community because of what a few nut jobs did in on remembrance day, but I guess we have our own extremists too. I think a lot of the problem comes from our own government in how they handle these issues... people would probably not feel the need to take matters into their own hands if the authorities dealt with these religious extremists properly. Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Beast Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 What happened was an absolute disgrace, although I do feel that we should not have given them so much press, that is exactly what they wanted. But then again, people needed to know about it... difficult one to handle I think, I'm not sure what I think would have been best. I've been hearing various things in my neck of the woods, planned attacks on mosques in retaliation, Muslims getting beaten up etc... As a non Muslim, I find these kind of actions just as disgusting as what those religious extremists did, I just can't believe in this day and age that people would persecute the whole of the Muslim community because of what a few nut jobs did in on remembrance day, but I guess we have our own extremists too. I think a lot of the problem comes from our own government in how they handle these issues... people would probably not feel the need to take matters into their own hands if the authorities dealt with these religious extremists properly. Agreed, they should of been arrested straight away no questions asked, I am not a police officer but I sure there would be some law broken that they could of been pulled up on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 What happened was an absolute disgrace, although I do feel that we should not have given them so much press, that is exactly what they wanted. But then again, people needed to know about it... difficult one to handle I think, I'm not sure what I think would have been best. I've been hearing various things in my neck of the woods, planned attacks on mosques in retaliation, Muslims getting beaten up etc... As a non Muslim, I find these kind of actions just as disgusting as what those religious extremists did, I just can't believe in this day and age that people would persecute the whole of the Muslim community because of what a few nut jobs did in on remembrance day, but I guess we have our own extremists too. I think a lot of the problem comes from our own government in how they handle these issues... people would probably not feel the need to take matters into their own hands if the authorities dealt with these religious extremists properly. Ditto - and that is coming from a Muslim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Yeh but further down if you read it, it also points out that the food parcels are rectangular and the bomblets are cylindrical, its like comparing a corn of a cob to a yellow pages (size and dimension wise). Yes they speak different language but they understand the word bomb, trust me on that one, the kids in those parts of the world are very knowledgeable towards these type of things. You asked for a source and you got given one yet you still harp on like a broken record... Civilians are dying daily in illegal wars waged by the us and britain... Does that not bother you? How would you feel if hour kid picked up a cluster bomb and was blown to smithereens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 You asked for a source and you got given one yet you still harp on like a broken record... Civilians are dying daily in illegal wars waged by the us and britain... Does that not bother you? How would you feel if hour kid picked up a cluster bomb and was blown to smithereens Illegal wars? Did you miss what happened on 9/11? That's why the war in afghan has started As for Iraq,the whole world is better of without saddam. People forget very easily that we live in a free country because we do something about countries that are dangerous and sadly wars always produce casualties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Illegal wars? Did you miss what happened on 9/11? That's why the war in afghan has started As for Iraq,the whole world is better of without saddam. People forget very easily that we live in a free country because we do something about countries that are dangerous and sadly wars always produce casualties. 9/11 attackers are Saudi ... And it was an inside job - why else has there never been a credible inquiry? Some further reading: http://www.911truth.org As for saddam - I think the people in Iraq who are suffering terribly would disagree with you. The sooner our country stops financing and participating in illegal wars the better off we will all be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 9/11 attackers are Saudi ... And it was an inside job - why else has there never been a credible inquiry? Some further reading: http://www.911truth.org I read that and immediately lost interest. As for saddam - I think the people in Iraq who are suffering terribly would disagree with you. Sadly the ones who were tortured and murdered by him and his regime cannot voice an opinion The sooner our country stops financing and participating in illegal wars the better off we will all be. Illegal according to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Taliban are based in Afghanistan no? Taliban responsible for 9/11? I don't buy into conspiracy theories either,no evidence to support the theories at all,always proved false. It is unfortunate we are at war but it is what it is.my best pal is in afghan right now,he has told me about many locals that have thanked him and other squaddies for making the Taliban retreat away from their villages etc. What's happening in Iraq that's worse than when saddam ruled? What do you suggest our country does then? Stay out of it? 9/11 attackers are Saudi ... And it was an inside job - why else has there never been a credible inquiry? Some further reading: http://www.911truth.org As for saddam - I think the people in Iraq who are suffering terribly would disagree with you. The sooner our country stops financing and participating in illegal wars the better off we will all be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 You asked for a source and you got given one yet you still harp on like a broken record... Civilians are dying daily in illegal wars waged by the us and britain... Does that not bother you? How would you feel if hour kid picked up a cluster bomb and was blown to smithereens Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Do you understand why our forces are over there? Maybe you should consider that many civilians over there don't have to worry quite so much about being abducted/killed/extorted by the Taliban? Or that you are kept safe by our efforts to supress those that would opress our freedom? Also, is it not the fault of the Taliban for using civilians as shields? You are quite happy to live in a society that benefits from us fighting over there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Taliban are based in Afghanistan no? Taliban responsible for 9/11? I don't buy into conspiracy theories either,no evidence to support the theories at all,always proved false. It is unfortunate we are at war but it is what it is.my best pal is in afghan right now,he has told me about many locals that have thanked him and other squaddies for making the Taliban retreat away from their villages etc. What's happening in Iraq that's worse than when saddam ruled? What do you suggest our country does then? Stay out of it? .... So you're one of those people who buys into the official party line without questioning what you are being told? Epic. The "coalition of the willing" staged 911 and used it as a platform to invade Afghanistan (to protect the opium and hoard mineral rich land) and Iraq for oil... But if your mind let's you believe the world is a happy place with British and us forces in Iraq - who am I to question that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I read that and immediately lost interest. Sadly the ones who were tortured and murdered by him and his regime cannot voice an opinion Illegal according to you. What did the then PM Bliar tell the British public? Did we find wmds? I'm interested in knowing how you still feel it's a legal war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Okay guys we're going off topic. I suggest we just let this thread die. I think we all agree that the Remembrance Day fiasco was wrong and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Come on then,shine your enlightened wisdom down on us naive fools living in ignorant bliss,totally fooled by our evil dictators and scheming media. You liberals make me laugh so much,always with "we shouldn't be there,we should do this and that" but you never say what we should do. I'm so glad we have more people with bollocks in our country because if they were all like you we'd be well screwed .... So you're one of those people who buys into the official party line without questioning what you are being told? Epic. The "coalition of the willing" staged 911 and used it as a platform to invade Afghanistan (to protect the opium and hoard mineral rich land) and Iraq for oil... But if your mind let's you believe the world is a happy place with British and us forces in Iraq - who am I to question that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Le sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Okay guys we're going off topic. I suggest we just let this thread die. I think we all agree that the Remembrance Day fiasco was wrong and that's it. It has gone off topic,we are supposed to be talking about the soldiers that died in world war 1,wonder what state the world would be in now if they hadn't bothered to fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Sorry, my fault for pointing out the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Sorry, my fault for pointing out the obvious. Which was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Which was? No one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Which was? That he constantly spouts sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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