add heywood Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Been thinking of getting a dog for a while now. The Mrs keeps dropping hints about wanting another baby so I need to take her mind off it, I think a dog could be my lifesaver lol. Joking aside, since I was a kid I've always wanted a Bulldog, been reading up on them and joined a Bulldog owners forum to get a bit of info. Just wondering if anyone here has ever had one, and any advice they would give. Only thing putting me off is the 1.5K price tag for a pedigree dog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 No experience with them but get a decent insurance policy. It seems most so called pure breed dogs suffer alot more than mongrels. My insurance on my dobermanns was £2.5k each per claim and i had to lay out another £3k on top of that for his operation a couple of months back. My boy comes from a good line and his dad won best in breed at crufts and the girl also a pedigree with papers came from a farm in kent with no special lines, cost half the price and has been pretty good (touches wood). Get to know breeders and their customers if you can. Goto some local dog shows that will be showing the breed you like and wander about chatting to owners, but be warned the world of dog showing is very political and bitchy so just sift for the info you need. Good luck and hope you find a cutie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Been thinking of getting a dog for a while now. The Mrs keeps dropping hints about wanting another baby so I need to take her mind off it, I think a dog could be my lifesaver lol. Joking aside, since I was a kid I've always wanted a Bulldog, been reading up on them and joined a Bulldog owners forum to get a bit of info. Just wondering if anyone here has ever had one, and any advice they would give. Only thing putting me off is the 1.5K price tag for a pedigree dog... Dude please think before you go and buy a British Bulldog they have been inbred so much they are constantly having serious health problems and breathing difficulty, the breeders do this and people keep buying them, its cruel IMO and if there was no market vthey would have to stop, if you think the price tag is high just wait for the vets bills!!! Before you do anything google Victorian Bulldog, this is what A bulldog should look like, they are gorgeous, long legged and powerful not a shuffling ball of dribble thats constantly farting!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Dude please think before you go and buy a British Bulldog they have been inbred so much they are constantly having serious health problems and breathing difficulty, the breeders do this and people keep buying them, its cruel IMO and if there was no market vthey would have to stop, if you think the price tag is high just wait for the vets bills!!! Before you do anything google Victorian Bulldog, this is what A bulldog should look like, they are gorgeous, long legged and powerful not a shuffling ball of dribble thats constantly farting!!!! When me and my brother in law went to get his staff, the dog breeder had one of these, pitch black and ripped with muscles, if i could have a dog it would be one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Interested in this also as when my current 2 dogs pop their clogs (hopefully no time soon) then i fancy eother a couple of bulldogs or boxers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Rescue a staff. Loads of them around. Great dogs and you get a nice warm feeling from rescuing. And like dude says i wouldn't touch a British buldog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Sorry, I know many people like Bulldogs, but they are a grotesque caricature of the real thing. I could never own one because I could not bear to be responsible for the continued breeding of an animal which cannot breathe properly and can only whelp by caesarian. This is an 1817 painting of a bulldog. Apparently the present day bulldog owes most of its "good looks" to Pug crosses. http://www.bttbab.com/rosa.JPG (And I also couldn't bear to be associated with the crap that bulldog breeders come out with... about how the undershot jaw allowed the dog to breathe while it was hanging on to the bull, and the wrinkles in the skin funneled blood away from the eyes, and the short bandy legs kept then low to the ground so that the bull couldn't get under the dog to throw it in the air... laughable. A modern "bulldog" wouldn't last 5 seconds against a bull.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 As dude said Victorian Bulldogs FTW. They are sometimes called olde bulldogs. Also look at american bulldogs. I love boxer dogs but to much heart ache with the health issues. The english bulldog as a breed is nothing short of a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wantthatone Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 i have also had many pedigree dogs the last being bloodhounds, lovely dogs but always down the vet! it seems with breeding to kennel club standards they suffer with many defects which in the kennel clubs eyes is "how a dog should be" english bulldogs are renowned for poor breathing difficulties, after a couple of years with out dogs, we decided to goto the local dog & cats home, i decided on a heinz 57, & we managed to get a 11month old bullmastiff/pitbull cross, i know what your all thinking, but i can hand on heart say, it is one of the best dogs i have ever owned, loyal, obedient, poised. never had an issue with health(touch wood) very easy to train, good with people, however no good with other dogs! she is a very big strong dog, but with the right training & a responsible owner makes a very good dog, especially security! her territory is hers... so please consider a rescue dog, there are lots of them that need good homes. for a £100 donation you give another chance to these poor dogs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 i have also had many pedigree dogs the last being bloodhounds, lovely dogs but always down the vet! it seems with breeding to kennel club standards they suffer with many defects which in the kennel clubs eyes is "how a dog should be" english bulldogs are renowned for poor breathing difficulties, after a couple of years with out dogs, we decided to goto the local dog & cats home, i decided on a heinz 57, & we managed to get a 11month old bullmastiff/pitbull cross, i know what your all thinking, but i can hand on heart say, it is one of the best dogs i have ever owned, loyal, obedient, poised. never had an issue with health(touch wood) very easy to train, good with people, however no good with other dogs! she is a very big strong dog, but with the right training & a responsible owner makes a very good dog, especially security! her territory is hers... so please consider a rescue dog, there are lots of them that need good homes. for a £100 donation you give another chance to these poor dogs... Sorry are you saying a rehoming center knowingly passed on a pitbull cross? If i where you mate id take that post down before someone comes and takes your dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wantthatone Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 you can never be a 100% sure what a cross breed is or has in it, the rescue centre is one of the biggest in somerset in bath. had the RSPCA checks done, home checks carried out, dog was spayed, all jabs done, its as the dog grew up, its more noticeable, yes the police have stopped us. but what do you do? as i said it is one of the best dogs i have had, lots of people comment on her, she's just a good dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wantthatone Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 just food for thought guys, what does make a dangerous dog? i do feel strongly about this & i think all emphasis should be on the owners! its the training not the dog! ask yourself why it is so easy to obtain dogs here? bad press & stereotypes all add to the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I agree its partly down to the way the owners bring them up. This is why personally, with 2 young kids, id never get a dog like a pitbull, staff, bulldog, rotty etc from a rescue place as u never know the full history. We did get a mongrel from battersea when i was a kid and she was great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wantthatone Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 it unfortunate, but when you go round these dogs homes there majority are as above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Dangerous dog act is very clear on pit bull types or indeed any cross of a banned breed to the point of DNA testing such animals. It is against the law to own any such dog that has been breed in the last 15 years. If your dog is indeed a pit bull cross then its very lucky to be alive. The fact a rehoming center would allow it to go to a home when its as you say super dog agressive is worse. That said the breeds they banned Tosa, pitbull are fightng dogs, the fila was and is the most agressive breed of dog in the world. However the Dogo is a hunting dog its breed to get on with other dogs and humans. Which always came over a bit strange. I can see a few more breeds making the list pressa and cano corso. Before long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Please consider whether you would want to be supporting genetically engineered breeds that have had inherent life quality debilitating traits bred into them for purely fashionable reasons The bulldog has become a caricature of the early dogs, grossly overweight, grossly compacted of muzzle to the extent breathing is impaired, and with terrible bone conformation. They snort and snuffle and slobber their way through their short lives like asthmatic vacuum cleaners, and will probably keep you on first name terms with your vet. Of the bull breeds the least *uggered about with ones are probably Bull Mastiffs, but they aren't a town dog, nor would I say they would be a good choice if you have young children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 ...Of the bull breeds the least *uggered about with ones are probably Bull Mastiffs...Least *uggered about with, perhaps (although we could have a discussion about that )... but the Bull Mastiff is heading down the same brachycephalic route as the Bulldog. Then http://britishbullmastiffleague.webs.com/Farcroft_Fidelity-255x241.jpg Now http://www.britishbullmastiffleague.co.uk/photos/BBL-Champ-Show-Winners/ch%20licassa_miss_louise.jpg I don't understand why dog breeders have to change the shape of a dog which was bred for a job, with a conformation which was proved to be ideal for that job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 The Kennel Club can be blamed for much of this. The English Mastiff was a hunting dog, now the show winners are judged on their weight, and not much else, most English Mastiffs would come second to a tortoise over 1200 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 A lady at work got a Bulldog pup not too long ago. It doesn't get exercised like a regular dog because of its breathing difficulties. Poor thing just wobbles around. I think the problem was when the bulldog got mated with a pug from what I've read. Started off the process that has resulted in the modern day bulldog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonc Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 My family have had bulldogs over the years from the 1960's through to the early 0's. Although they are fantastic dogs (they do smell a bit) the last 3 all suffered from various problems all from in breeding which got worse not better and hence no more bull dogs in the family. One had breathing problems and a stomach problem that meant he was sick when he got excited and died age 9. Another one had rear end problems for the most of his life and died age 7. The third had leg and back problems which in the end meant she had to be put down. All these problems meant regular visits to the vets and insurance only covered so much. So called breeders have a lot to answer for as it is because of them that pedigree dogs suffer in a lot of breeds. Bull dogs are very sincere dogs and faithful to their owners but I don't think they are worth all the vets visits until breeders sort their shit out. Saying all that there has to be decent dogs out there. Anyway hope this helps a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 get a beagle hardy little things,funny,headstrong but loyal as long as everything belongs to them,and great for chasing foxes and deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 One of my dogs is a beagle. NEVER again lol. They are bonkers I will definitely look into the victorian bulldogs mentioned though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't recommend a bbd! I let my mrs sister £650 for a £2k one about 2 years ago, don't get me wrong he is mental to look at but don't they have issues! First of all you have to wipe there arse, seriously there arse faces up so they always have to be wiped after they have done there thing. Again with all there rolls they need to be kept clean, the roll above there nose about once a day! Cherry eye is very common, it's a part on the inner of there eye which swells up and as the name looks like a cherry, it's a common operation but he was in for a night at the vets at only 7 months old having both of his cherries tucked and stitched back in place! Breathing is shocking, constantly heavy breathing and don't get me started on snoring. Oh and she pays £55 insurance a month with pet plan, lol Not really a dog you can take to the park and through a stick too!lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Get a Whippet, job done Great natured, clean, intelligent. Top companions, they do need a good run though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike3.0 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I got one form a rescue center a few months back, its true they do fart alot so beware[OOPS][/OOPS]! They are great dogs and everyone wants to stop and stroke him... I'd recommend one, but like everyone says on here make sure your aware of their heath problems, ours has skin issues - But thankfully breaths ok:) Theres a few rescue websites for bulldogs around, have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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