Samurai 20V Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Hi Guys.. I have spent the last 4 months looking for a Supra in Japan, so far I cant find anything I like...[sAD][/sAD] The are alot of R33 GTRs available at good prices...much more competitive than the Supra pricing considering the quality of cars.. WHat are your opinions? I know the opinions here are probably biased, but I hope to get some good answers... My plan was to run the Supra at BPU power levels, so I would want to run the GTR up to the same type of power....Any ideas on how to do this? My intention is a few track days, and a few drag events back home, the car is basically a weekend toy.. Any thoughts are welcomed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I've always loved the R33 GTR and if there are more of them and it'll be easier to buy/maintain it then I'd go for the GTR. I know they can handle big power but no idea if you can BPU like a Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Its what you prefer mate, ive had a r32 gtr and driven a 33 gtr on numerous occsasions, they are alot alike, but the 32 does feel lighter and a little more nimble, and imho more aggressive than the 33! In comparrison to my supra, the gtr is a bit quicker through the corners but in a straight line my bpu supra is a fair amount faster than the gtr. The gtr was running 1.1 bar on standard ceramic turbo's with fmic, blitz down pipes, catback exhaust and apexi air filters, so much the same as my bpu supra is running. All i can add to this thread is i wouldnt go back to my gtr after the supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 Thats the thing, I am not sure what to get...The Supras I have seen so far haven't been clean at all... I want a car thats versatile(track, drag, street) and reliable as I dont want issues when I take the car back to SA... The only reason I am considering the GTR is because a clean one seems easy to find here in Japan... Back to the drawing board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 The Nissan Skyline build quality is nothing like Toyotas with the MKIV's. They are a bit of a rot box, the R32 was not too bad, the 33 was worse, and the 34 can suffer serious rust at a young age. This may be more apparent over here due to the nancy boy public insisting on salt and grit on the roads as soon as the temperatures drop. The situation in Japan should be better. The 4 wheel drive Skylines have much greater running costs and are much harder to work on than the Supras. For track usage they NEED bigger brakes and a lot more oil cooling than stock. The R33 GTR gearbox is weak, and suffers expensive synchro wear if used hard, or the car has done a lot of miles. On the plus side there are vast amounts of hard core tuning parts available, for the chassis and the engines. As stock the engines have multiple throttle bodies, which makes for great throttle response and low pressure drops, and you can also get serious power whilst still using the totally reliable stock turbo manifolds. Have you driven both models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest adam b Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 skylines are great the gtr has 4x4 and has more room for a family man. but it will never come close to the supra interior ,or the sleek look of the supra even aston martin copied the shape of the jza80 to a degree you only have to look at ther side veiw .. but its just my opinun for what its worth ,good luck with your serch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 r33 GTR launch is awesome!! For that alone I make it a serious contender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I had a R33 GTR Vspec. My top 10 reasons for getting shot were: 1) Tiny battery, always going flat 2) Boot suffers from water ingress due polling in the boot lid channels. 3) You think a Supra drinks fuel, try a BPU GTR .... i could physically watch the fuel needle drop a WOT. Small fuel tank doesn't help 4) Rot on front suspension towers, Mine had been done fortunately 5) Crap gearbox, Syncro kick back on 4th & 5th common when shifting to quick. 6) Tram Line and Torque steer a plenty (Granted I had 285x35x18 on 10.5 Nismo rims all round which wouldn't be helping) 7) HiCas Issues (Sudden Crabbing and high speed rear end twitching, I had that one, not nice !) 8) Worlds Crappiest brakes given they are Brembo as standard. 9) It's a Nissan 10) It's not a Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Insurance on a Skyline is considerably more expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I did seem to give Skylines a bit of a slating, in their defence what road car based track day car have I run for the last 5 years? A Skyline R33.... But it's a GTS-t though, so only 2 WD. Don't underrate them however, they are dirt cheap to buy, light(ish) and can be made to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I did seem to give Skylines a bit of a slating, in their defence what road car based track day car have I run for the last 5 years? A Skyline R33.... But it's a GTS-t though, so only 2 WD. Don't underrate them however, they are dirt cheap to buy, light(ish) and can be made to fly. Indeed, I would buy the 2wd version over the GTR if I even got another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I am not saying they are better than a GTR, but for my purposes I wanted a challenging to drive high horsepower 2 rear wheel drive car with modest purchase costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I am not saying they are better than a GTR, but for my purposes I wanted a challenging to drive high horsepower 2 rear wheel drive car with modest purchase costs. I wish my car was as "modest" as yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Some good advice here. I have pondered over the R33 GTR and Supra TT decision, I am sure a number of members have. I spoke to a couple of friends who owned them and got verdicts on them, and my colleague used to own one (along with a couple of his friends). It seems they are brilliant cars (which I expected) but the owners seemed dwindled with reliability issues. The main thing being the gearbox and the 4 wheel drive system, though saying that they have said the 4WD really the car to push the car to its limit around corners. I would have thought you should be able to easily pick up a clean Supra in Japan? Are they just rare there then? Us british took the lot? You driven either cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Deffo a Supra over a R33 mate! Toyotas build quality is much better! Also to get a R33 GTR the same power as a BPU supra you looking BIG Bucks... Im a lover of the R34 GTR and its pretty much my dream car.... I have been pondering the idea of getting rid of my Supra for one next year. Even though its inevetable me getting an R34 iv deside to keep the Supra and go big Turbo, Purely because i know the quailty of the JZA-80 engine will cope finw ith the power levels i'll be after (650ish BHP) But at the end of the day its your money and your car. If you see a R33, its in good condition and you fall for it dont miss the chance of being a happy Skyline owner. BUT dont forget to keep the Supra in mind. But my personal choise would be the Supra RZ anyday over a R33. An R34GTR would be another mind of thoughts.... Good luck with buying mate and i hope you get something you love. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I wish my car was as "modest" as yours! The purchase cost was very modest, my problem is I can't leave things alone and tend to go a bit carried away when I see things like sequential boxes and fancy suspension in adverts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 No contest really.... The R33 GTR is an unreliable, awful looking rotbox taxi, the Supra is a lovely looking reliable machine. I'm not biased at all by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 No contest really.... The R33 GTR is an unreliable, awful looking rotbox taxi, the Supra is a lovely looking reliable machine. I'm not biased at all by the way [img]http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd508/Josh3Sheets/Shakespeare%20Raceway%20Oct%202010/124.jpg[/img] Compare the looks I love the mean look of the R33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Look how sleek the supra is mate! Beautiful compared to that monster looking thing next to it! Only my opinion though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Look how sleek the supra is mate! Beautiful compared to that monster looking thing next to it! Only my opinion though! I agree! Look at the A/B pillar, look how nice the shell curves round! The body just looks so sleek compared to then R33! No harsh lines or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 You can alter the bodywork on an R33 GTR quite easily to give a different look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 you can alter the bodywork on an r33 gtr quite easily to give a different look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 You can alter the bodywork on an R33 GTR quite easily to give a different look: Christ,, what happened there? Food blender?lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezzler Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Aestetically, Skylines do nothing for me - looks like a juiced up saloon; same reaction with scoobies and evo's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 IMHO supra's and rx7's are in a different class looks wise to the others mentioned, quite different cars too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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