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Scott Newbie

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He's running Windows 7 and you don't think he'll be using all of that 2GB?

 

I'm using 1.13GB of 4GB available. I rarely crop into 2GB+ (4GB available). Photoshop and video editing being the main culprates.

 

If CJ's PC is feeling sluggish it won't be down to a lack of RAM unless he can be specific when it is dragging, say using the likes of photoshop. If it is just generally sluggish a reformat will suffice and make a world of difference IMO.

 

RAM size is the last step I would take to increase speed in CJ's case. Reformat, HDD upgrade, RAM speed, processor speed and finally RAM size would be my order.

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For CJ's use, almost certainly no. But then I don't know what else he may use the PC for.

 

 

 

Your point is flawed imbecile, this is my job, I deal with this sort of thing every day.

 

I could have gone into the various 4GT tuning options (PAE, /3GB) to allow the machine to address more than 4GB of address space, or to increase the amount of memory available to user-mode applications to 3GB. However, we're already way over your head and your little brain may melt.

 

You have some good points and obviously excellent technical understanding but you really are lacking social skills, not suprising you weren't made a mod if you can even reply to people in a polite/respectful manner.

 

We're getting waaaayyy off topic though, CJ, reformat, get extra RAM, job's a good-un.

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Pfft, real men don't use Ubuntu, they build their own Linux From Scratch distribution :D (er, not that I have, far too much hassle)

 

I gave up on LFS and Gentoo AGES ago when I was running on a p60 and it took a day to build X and it was usually wrong :) And the 64GB is my server config, not my desktop, I run JUST fine on 3GB (64 bit)

 

Ubuntu?? Are you guys making this stuff up? What is that F1 samsung thing as well.

 

Gosh my pc knowledge has dived in recent years.

 

Ubuntu is a distro based upon Linux....Probably one of the more user friendly ones out there.

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CJ Newbie

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Hopefully you have some answers here Col :)

I have loads of answers but that is not to say I understand them all :D

 

From what I can gather, you simply pour a litre of Um bongo down the back of your pc :D

That is probably the only one I felt confident of doing :D

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Hopefully you have some answers here Col :)

 

From what I can gather, you simply pour a litre of Um bongo down the back of your pc :D

 

That's ridiculous?!............ where did you get 1 litre from? Surely 2 litres is the minimum, I'd recommend 4 litres but some people would say that was overkill as CJ would never use all of that um bongo? :innocent:

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Thanks.

 

That ubuntu looks amazing. Is it easy to install and can I keep my windows install incase (as in have a boot option when starting)

 

It is easy to install. It comes with a boot-loader called "Grub": a no-frills menu that appears very early on in the booting process where you can choose either Ubuntu or something else (Windows for example). Grub can support several (many?) items.

 

Linux has come on a long way since the late 1990s where installing it was a mission and had to love geeky stuff to do it. Now, IMO it's genuinely easier than Windows to install.

 

You don't need to enjoy Um Bongo in order to use Ubuntu, but rumour has it that it helps. :)

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It is easy to install. It comes with a boot-loader called "Grub": a no-frills menu that appears very early on in the booting process where you can choose either Ubuntu or something else (Windows for example). Grub can support several (many?) items.

 

Linux has come on a long way since the late 1990s where installing it was a mission and had to love geeky stuff to do it. Now, IMO it's genuinely easier than Windows to install.

 

You don't need to enjoy Um Bongo in order to use Ubuntu, but rumour has it that it helps. :)

 

That's very helpful thank you. I'll install it tonight when I get home :) - so excited to play worms again for FREE!

 

The rest of you stop going on about um bongo - got that silly jungle advert tune in my head now even though I scarcely remember the words. :lol:

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I have loads of answers but that is not to say I understand them all :D

 

That is probably the only one I felt confident of doing :D

 

On a slightly serious note, can you get all the bits required in Kos town?

 

That's ridiculous?!............ where did you get 1 litre from? Surely 2 litres is the minimum, I'd recommend 4 litres but some people would say that was overkill as CJ would never use all of that um bongo? :innocent:

 

Yep...I feel embarrassed about all of this. If you're running W7 it has to be a minimum of 2 litres, but perhaps 4L may be superflous to requirements. I wonder what Scott would suggest...and additional tinny of Iron-Bru? But thinking of the anwser in a global sense, installing a Mythos injection/cooling system may well be be the obvious addition for CJ.

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I don't want to step on any toes here but just overclock the processor to 3GHz+ CJ, if you even need to. Costs nothing except time. With Vista use 4GB Ram, period. XP you're ok with 2, even for setting the world 3d Mark '06 record. Clearing up the desktop & taskbar might help if you have dozens of icons on it as they're all memory resident. There are loads of programs to "Speed Up My PC!" as well but they vary in quality and can corrupt your registry. Try RegistryBooster though. I use it all the time to make sure it's ok. It's the main index for Windows and if that gets muddled up, you're in a world of hurt.

 

I'd not recommend overclocking for a RAID setup though but I don't think you have that. More trouble than it's worth in my experience but then I clock the hell out of my cpu's, (5GHz E8600, 4.7GHz QX9770, 3.8GHz Q6600 etc.) and RAID keeps getting corrupted when the cpu voltage is a bit off. You don't have to go that far to get a noticeable improvement in some applications though.

 

Memory speeds only decrease game level type loading times in any noticeable way and then only if you get the timings 'sweet' with the board and cpu etc. so capacity will make more difference to you with 2GB Vista. What board do you have? I have 4GB (4x1GB) of spare SuperTalent DDR2 800 (1066MHz) or 2GB (2x1GB) of DDR3 Corsair XMS3 1333MHz that I don't need but you'd have to have the same already to add that. As already said, just get another 2GB of what you have now, if you can find it on ebay. If not, I'll find it for you, trust me ;-)

 

To get an idea of how fast your system is though CJ, for reference purposes if you do decide to change anything, download a copy of PC Mark Vantage (http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/pcmarkvantage/download/) or 3D Mark Vantage (Vista & 7) or the older 3D Mark '06 for XP onwards for those with gaming systems). That will give you absolute proof of any upgrade speed increases and where they occur. Run it before adding 2GB more memory, then after, to prove the difference but don't expect a miracle.

 

Processors are just set to different clock speeds to make more money by tailoring them to an individual's finances and needs so it's ok to overclock them within limits. They could simply make and sell the top end processor (thus saving on tooling, packaging, marketing etc. of all the inferior derivatives) but the cpu would still be more expensive than the lower end chips so they have a couple of basic designs (e.g. Duo & Quad) and sell various clock speeds of the same chips depending on batch quality, stability etc. and the very fastest handpicked ones get sold for a LOT more but with very little physical difference. Your E5300 was it, is a downclocked version of my 45nm E8600, essentially. That runs at a standard clockspeed of 3.33GHz but will happily do 4GHz all day long on safe voltages with good cooling, as should yours.

 

A good SSD will make the most practical difference once memory is up to 4GB in Vista though.

 

Hope that all makes sense and doesn't make you wish that you hadn't asked!!?

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