peter richards Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 ok , in my new house and the new TV i went for the panasonic 46" is on the wall but the lead that came with it is a bit short . so off to currys to get a longer one , now the fun begins ,the fella is saying that over 2m is not a good idea as it loses signal,but then tries to sell me one for over £100 so to get where her indoors wants the cabinet its going to be 3m . whats your views guys ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supranature Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Have a look in Asda, they've got loads of different ones in there.Different lengths also. You can degrade quality with excessive cabling, but the difference between 1 and 3 metres would be quantum. There has been much debate over the years with regards to the pros and cons of cheap v expensive cabling, and the concensus is that the expensive ones are not much better at their job than a £3 one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I've got a 5m HDMI going to a 50" Panasonic plasma. The picture quality is 100% perfect and has been for the last 2+ years. It's only a cheapo cable but with digital cables it doesn't make any odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 It's a digital signal so it makes no difference, like digital tv signal that you either get a really good picture or horrendous jumpy bitty bitty one. So if it did it would be definitely be noticeable . However it would make a difference with analogue signals like audio leads from dvd to amp etc (phone stuff etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Don't fall for the crap - thats where they make their mark-up. Get a standard, no brand lead. Digital is digital. You don't need the gold connectors either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 This is one of my true pet hates. I love nothing more than putting the little snot nose sales brats in their place when they start spouting crap about these leads. Since the days of Digital television the signal has been digital. That is either a 1 or a 0, there is no higher range one and lower range 0. Buy the cheapest nastiest longest cable you can get your mits on. It will make absolutely no difference to the quality whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 ok thanks for the replies ill have a look tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Utter shite. I got 5m cables from HDMi.co.uk in February, hid them in my wall and they have been fine. I paid about a tenner each for 5m. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Utter shite. I got 5m cables from HDMi.co.uk in February, hid them in my wall and they have been fine. I paid about a tenner each for 5m. H. Ah the good old HID Wall cables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 As Stated above dont get fooled by the dicks at Currys, you dont need a 100 quid lead!! In the days of SCART yes a fully shielded top brand QED Lead was an essential purchase IMO but with digital no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 As Stated above dont get fooled by the dicks at Currys, you dont need a 100 quid lead!! In the days of SCART yes a fully shielded top brand QED Lead was an essential purchase IMO but with digital no Even then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 No No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I had a guy in comet almost in tears when I asked him to point out which one had the expensive branded/shielded scart and which one had the £2 jobby. I couldn't spot it either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Buy the cheapest nastiest longest cable you can get your mits on. It will make absolutely no difference to the quality whatsoever. While it's true there is no difference in picture quality, you can't just use any length of super cheap cable or you'll get no signal whatsoever. For example I bought some a super cheapo 5m HDMI cable from ASDA and it couldn't cope with a 1080p 60fps signal from a PS3. I had to buy another (still cheap) one from an online place, can't remember where now. Think it was £10-15 or so. Also, the place I got it from had some low profile flat cables that were ideal for running under carpets etc if you need to. 3m you'll probably be fine with just about anything, but when it starts getting longer you want something a bit better made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I had a guy in comet almost in tears when I asked him to point out which one had the expensive branded/shielded scart and which one had the £2 jobby. I couldn't spot it either Laserdisc needed superior leads as it was the best format available pre-dvd and had colour bleed on sh!te 2 quid leads on a 44" Rear Pro Tv , QED.... none and yes I noticed the difference for your VHS machine pumping out 240 lines of res yes a crappy 2 quider would be ample Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Try 7dayshop.com for your leads, I've been using them for years and they sell decent stuff at a good price. Sorry that sounded like I work for them, I don't but they are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 We run upto 50metre HDMI's on the yacht installs we have done, and we run 1080p Signals down those with no issues, any longer and you might want to include a amp/booster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilp9876 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 We run upto 50metre HDMI's on the yacht installs we have done, and we run 1080p Signals down those with no issues, any longer and you might want to include a amp/booster 50m /vbb/images/smilies/bbcode_shock.gif I was under the impression that 10m was about the limit for HDMI before the hardware starts to degrade the data being sent, i.e it drops it from 1.3 to 1.2 or from 1080p to 720p to reduce the amount of data. I have read that from 10 to 15m you need an inline signal booster, and above 15m you should be using CAT5 cable (Balun Pair). Might be wrong though 5m and below it doesnt really matter on the quality, Curry's etc selling expensive cables is purely a rip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 thanks again for the replies , great advice as usual on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 While it's true there is no difference in picture quality, you can't just use any length of super cheap cable or you'll get no signal whatsoever. For example I bought some a super cheapo 5m HDMI cable from ASDA and it couldn't cope with a 1080p 60fps signal from a PS3. I had to buy another (still cheap) one from an online place, can't remember where now. Think it was £10-15 or so. Also, the place I got it from had some low profile flat cables that were ideal for running under carpets etc if you need to. 3m you'll probably be fine with just about anything, but when it starts getting longer you want something a bit better made. Sounds like you got a dodgy cable. I've got a 10m one that I got on ebay for £3 and it works flawlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 You can get attenuation (loss od signal quality over distance) but unless you are running huge lenghts you wont see any quality issues; as a rule of thumb I would suggest go for a manufacturer who only deals in Cable production, you know 100% focus is on cable quality unlike a brand like Sony who has there finger in every pie from Tv's to mobile phones. I would recommend a company called QED, resonable priced but quailty cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I need to buy some HDMI leads for my new TV. I see that it doesnt really matter that much which ones you use, so is there any reason why I shouldnt buy this? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5349694/Trail/searchtext%3EHDMI.htm thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I need to buy some HDMI leads for my new TV. I see that it doesnt really matter that much which ones you use, so if there any reason why I shouldnt buy this? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5349694/Trail/searchtext%3EHDMI.htm thanks go for it bud. Like scott said a 0 is a 0, and a 1 is a 1. im off to buy one tonight for my folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Get the QED for an extra 20, no pint spending 1000's on your equipment to have it let down by a cheap cable. We all use the top quality oils and petrol available for our cars, extra 20 wont break the bank http://www.qed.co.uk/200/gb/product/profile/hdmi.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Get the QED for an extra 20, no pint spending 1000's on your equipment to have it let down by a cheap cable. We all use the top quality oils and petrol available for our cars, extra 20 wont break the bank http://www.qed.co.uk/200/gb/product/profile/hdmi.htm Quality oils and petrols make a difference though. A brand name isnt going to make a difference to a 0 or a 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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