Jagwah

[jagman]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-06/jaguar-land-rover-to-build-cars-at-new-china-plant-financial-times-says.html

[Nic]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-06/jaguar-land-rover-to-build-cars-at-new-china-plant-financial-times-says.html

 

Sad but inevitable.

 

As we chatted about a few days ago, I can see a number of car manufacturers following suit to try to capture a share of the Chinese market. The German brands will have to do the same at some point.

[jagman]

The thing is each productive job ,creates 4;1 ratio in other jobs , so in this case another 20,000 jobs not counting the construction of a new plant , Meanwhile Ian Douglas Smith (work and pensions) puts forward a proposal for long term unemployed to be forced into labour - 30 hrs a week or lose all dole payments for 3 months - where is this all going?

[Branners]

Hopefully it is going to a place where the long term unemployed do something to earn their money and this country gets 'cheap' labour to do jobs that people see as beneath them and nobody wants to do as it would pay below the minimum wage.

 

You also have the rising problem of the unions yet again and as with the last Conservative Government the unions are going to need to be put back in their place. If I had to choose a country in which to manufacture something I certainly would not choose the UK. Even patriotic Mr Dyson of the hoover fame moved manufacturing out of the UK. While minimum wages keep going up and unions focus purely on what is best for their members, as opposed to the good of the company or even the country they are in then manufacturing will keep going abroad.

[jagman]

Hopefully it is going to a place where the long term unemployed do something to earn their money and this country gets 'cheap' labour to do jobs that people see as beneath them and nobody wants to do as it would pay below the minimum wage.

 

You also have the rising problem of the unions yet again and as with the last Conservative Government the unions are going to need to be put back in their place. If I had to choose a country in which to manufacture something I certainly would not choose the UK. Even patriotic Mr Dyson of the hoover fame moved manufacturing out of the UK. While minimum wages keep going up and unions focus purely on what is best for their members, as opposed to the good of the company or even the country they are in then manufacturing will keep going abroad.

 

Such things occured in victorian times , and so return to this , Union power long since vanished and it is in its death throws - who will you blame then ? - Twinnings tea is moving its plant to Poland - nothing to do with unions but the Polish government paying millions to subsidise this (circa 35k per job) - now ask who owns Twinnings?

The "members" of unions are in fact the general public and what is best for them is indeed best for the "company" or "country" -There is no trickle down of wealth !!! only a division that is getting wider

IT is is for a huge influx of outsourcing labour as it is cheaper , those who though contracting was going to run forever ,think on ,they now compete with the 3rd world -all driven by the solution of low wages .

Whould you consider the minimum wage a living wage ?just how much has it "gone Up", bear in mind housing costs and transport costs,food costs,energy costs and if so just how many people should be on this and should they be on this for life?