Sad job, had to be done.

[JustGav]

I'd happily do damage to a human, humans have the capacity to be rather EVIL, animals are a little more simple and aren't as malicious. I couldn't harm an animal needlessly.

[SupraStar 3000]

animals are a little more simple and aren't as malicious. I couldn't harm an animal needlessly.

 

Try telling that to Chris's pheasant that had his eyes pecked out

 

(notice how I correctly guessed the birds sex based on its plumage - if that doesn't get me my cub scout bird spotter badge, noting will)

[SupraDan24]

IMO Humans and animals alike are driven by their basal instincts, the only thing that seperates us from them is that we are concious of it. If you conciously make an action, you should be held accountable for it, whether its "in your nature" or not. If your raised to believe something is right, should you be blamed for it...no...should you still be held accountable...yes. Not sure if that makes sense Maybe i should leave the philosophy to Matt lol.

[Matt H]

Try telling that to Chris's pheasant that had his eyes pecked out

 

(notice how I correctly guessed the birds sex based on its plumage - if that doesn't get me my cub scout bird spotter badge, noting will)

 

Chris W, Pheasants, Peckers and Plums - It's all getting to much for me!

[Pete]

The photo implies you fed it to the dog?

[SUPRALOOPY]

Try telling that to Chris's pheasant that had his eyes pecked out

 

(notice how I correctly guessed the birds sex based on its plumage - if that doesn't get me my cub scout bird spotter badge, noting will)

 

Or it could that Chris said there were two male birds after his woman..

[Tannhauser]

This is touching slightly on one of my most pondered thoughts.

 

Is anyone ever fully responsible for their own actions? Are we all not just simply a product of our inherited genes and environmental inputs? With that said, is it ever 100% an individual's fault for something they do - can an individual ever be held fully accountable for their actions? Is this theory accepted to a point where its ok as long as these actions don't cause any harm "it's not his fault, it's just the way he is". Then once that line has been broke, they jump to being accountable?

 

Please ignore me btw

 

I'm sure many would disagree, but to me the idea of 'full responsibility for our actions' is nothing but a necessary and convenient fiction. I just see that as an inevitable consequence of a scientific view. Thoughts and views don't appear in a vacuum, they come from a combination of instinct, upbringing and learning experiences. Now, ultimately all of these are beyond our control (even if we choose certain learning experiences, the personality doing the choosing is a result of genetics and early learning). We're only sophisticated animals, and like every other species, we do as we are programmed.

 

With apologies to Chris for the thread hijack.

[pistonbroke]

You're a good man Chris, the bird must have thought he'd died and gone to heaven already after being rescued by you and placed in your care.

 

No doubt you gave the animal a great second innings, and you've a heart of gold for doing so.

[Chris Wilson]

 

With apologies to Chris for the thread hijack.

 

I call it raising it to a higher cerebral level, not a hijack, please continue your musings

[marbleapple]

I'm sure many would disagree, but to me the idea of 'full responsibility for our actions' is nothing but a necessary and convenient fiction. I just see that as an inevitable consequence of a scientific view. Thoughts and views don't appear in a vacuum, they come from a combination of instinct, upbringing and learning experiences. Now, ultimately all of these are beyond our control (even if we choose certain learning experiences, the personality doing the choosing is a result of genetics and early learning). We're only sophisticated animals, and like every other species, we do as we are programmed.

 

With apologies to Chris for the thread hijack.

 

There is a risk of the nature vs nurture argument starting here too

 

Tann I agree with your comments btw. We have to set boundries based on science because everything else (such as emotion for instance) is variable.

 

I call it raising it to a higher cerebral level,

 

Cerebral level?.... you realise this is a car forum don't you.. using big words like that.

 

Bring it back down to normal... boobs, ass, burp.

 

It is a bit mean the other birds picked on that one.

[Chris Wilson]

You're a good man Chris, the bird must have thought he'd died and gone to heaven already after being rescued by you and placed in your care.

 

No doubt you gave the animal a great second innings, and you've a heart of gold for doing so.

 

A heart of gold? I believe this is a first for me, I have been accused of many thinks, but of having a heart of gold, that's a new one

 

I do get the odd payback for some of my philanthropic actions, our rescue Anatolian Karabash came second in class at the Midlands dog show on Sunday, meaning she's at Crufts again next year. Not bad for a £50 mutt no one wanted and who has turned out to be one of the best dogs we have owned.

 

Thanks for the kind words

[Pete]

A heart of gold?

I had to read it twice.

[Paul]

our rescue Anatolian Karabash came second in class at the Midlands dog show on Sunday

 

How many were there in the class? Did a bit of dog showing once

[dude]

Maybe its because a vast majority of the human race are complete knobs?

 

Exactly that, my old man was a true hard man and not to be crossed, I saw and heard stories of his 'escapades' but he would cry like a baby when watching something like a protest about the seal cull etc, I dont like too many people so im with the animal thing;)

[Charlotte]

I had to read it twice.

 

I'm still trying to take it in.

[Matt H]

I'm still trying to take it in.

 

I got an error message when my brain tried to process it.