JamieP Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I'm really in two minds. Very tempted to order a T6 manifold and billet GT47-88 for my winter refresh. I really do want lots of power but is it one step to far? at present my billet 76 spools very fast and is most likely as far as pump fuel will be pushed. Im just worried if i order a T6 setup it will be crap on pump fuel and i will hate driving it, my car has to stay 100% street and to get good power from a big turbo like that im going to have to run race fuel, then thats the street car thing out the window. This car gives me the horn though... 3.0L T6 billet GT47-88, just watch how he destroys these bikes. -lCinm_IVTM 0UqsJ6Aozhs kx_jG1Sq-oo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Just do it , who cares if the car is "street" or not, I certainly wouldn't think any less of a car if it had to run race fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Easily one of the best supra's stateside I cant see it being such a huge problem myself but id say its definatly going to push ryan's mapping skills. My vote is go for it mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Just do it , who cares if the car is "street" or not, I certainly wouldn't think any less of a car if it had to run race fuel Will it be crap on pump fuel is what worries me as i will be running that most the time, dont want to spend a fortune on this then get murdered by a T67 unless im on race fuel. I think i need two supras:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I'd say go for it. Not that I know anything about this but do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 If you built a car like that, you'd make damn sure you had race fuel in it so you wouldn't get beat by 67's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Worth finding out, if it doesnt work out. Move the parts on, i know there will be a market for an out and out HP hunter Too much agro to run swithable tanks as well a maps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 looks awesome what would that setup be like on normal driving? my vote is go for it as I want a passenger ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Vids ain't working for me either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Well, you can only try it JP. What's the max boost to run on pump fuel? Keeping it cooler is the key to stop the knockl, I guess. The knock control on the Syvecs should see some very good longevity? Running 2bar on the 76mm can't be far from the boundaries of pump fuel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Vids ain't working for me either Think, just the first one isn't working Jay, the other 2 seem fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Not to point out the obvious, but why *not* have two cars? Have your cake and eat it too. Stripped/caged bike-rapist Supra, and a nice 900bhp shopping barge Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 go for it mate, my r35 with id2000s will need e85 or race fuel to make most of it.. a v-power map will also be to hand for the lower boost settings it will run it ok i have been told by our USA mates. obviously my low boost will still be high lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I think i need two supras:d I am kind of surprised that you don't have two JP.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 I dunno, i cant be arsed to mess with race fuel all the time and have a feeling it will be crap on pump fuel, im going to do some more digging and pick some peoples brains stateside, im not in a rush to make a decision, i can wait till xmas and not hold anything up, be nice to get a ride in DARRET's car when he is back in the UK with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I dunno, i cant be arsed to mess with race fuel all the time and have a feeling it will be crap on pump fuel, im going to do some more digging and pick some peoples brains stateside, im not in a rush to make a decision, i can wait till xmas and not hold anything up, be nice to get a ride in DARRET's car when he is back in the UK with it. can you not have the settings on a switch say 3 and use e85 (if this is available your way ?) and then have race fuel setting ? and lastly a pump fuel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I dunno, i cant be arsed to mess with race fuel all the time and have a feeling it will be crap on pump fuel, im going to do some more digging and pick some peoples brains stateside, im not in a rush to make a decision, i can wait till xmas and not hold anything up, be nice to get a ride in DARRET's car when he is back in the UK with it. i wouldnt want to use race fuel all the time either,just occasionally for the events etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 can you not have the settings on a switch say 3 and use e85 (if this is available your way ?) and then have race fuel setting ? and lastly a pump fuel.. Yeah can have switchable maps, i have that now. No E85 near me, race fuel is expensive and to use all the time would bankrupt me. I cant afford to build another supra aswell as this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Jamie, what is your end goal (well what you are aiming for). Seeing as you have enough cars to get you around, think you can do with one out and out race car Though like you say it is the hassle of using Race Fuel and won't be as 'street' anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Could maybe see what Dude's dyno graph is like that, and use that as some kind of representation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 I dont have an end goal for the car, i just enjoy messing about with it, i do enjoy driving it a lot even though its not my daily car, just dont want to go to far and regret it. I might wait a little longer, another year on the 76 then go T6 maybe, i need to get a ride in one really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Have you thought about using mappable WI to add extra in-chamber cooling? You can get a sophisticated setup from Aquamist that has a flow sensor and a logic system that basically means if you run out of water or spring a leak, your ECU can be switched to a lower boost/less aggressive timing map, all instantly on the fly - therefore it's quite safe to map around the WI. That way you'd be able to run pump fuel at higher boost from a bigger turbo quite safely, and I bet Ryan would love to sink his teeth into that kind of rig. Unless you can't afford bottled water either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Have you thought about using mappable WI to add extra in-chamber cooling? You can get a sophisticated setup from Aquamist that has a flow sensor and a logic system that basically means if you run out of water or spring a leak, your ECU can be switched to a lower boost/less aggressive timing map, all instantly on the fly - therefore it's quite safe to map around the WI. That way you'd be able to run pump fuel at higher boost from a bigger turbo quite safely, and I bet Ryan would love to sink his teeth into that kind of rig. Unless you can't afford bottled water either Fair shout, A direct port water/meth setup is a possibility, i dont like the idea of mapping to a single jet setup like some do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Fair shout, A direct port water/meth setup is a possibility, i dont like the idea of mapping to a single jet setup like some do. Saying that it might be just as easy to go with a 12 injector setup and another 20 litre fuel tank in the boot with race fuel in it, the 6 injectors with race fuel just kick in at high boost, all cruising done on pump fuel. Plenty to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej705 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Saying that it might be just as easy to go with a 12 injector setup and another 20 litre fuel tank in the boot with race fuel in it, the 6 injectors with race fuel just kick in at high boost, all cruising done on pump fuel. Plenty to think about. wow that sounds cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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